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From: dick <dick.r.chiang@gmail.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org
Subject: Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities]
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:46:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf383nsm.fsf_-_@dick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ky7w5-0006G9-HB@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:41:17 -0500")

herr Doctor,

I'd wager the hundred or so guys who identify most with GNU would, if a
referendum were taken, say that:

1. Non-free is not an injustice,

2. *Gratis* is far and away more important to our users than *libre*, and

3. Non-free software can be used without compunction to improve our own *free*
software, and in countless ways, already does.

In other words, I'll book an emission-intensive flight to the climate
conference if it means I don't have to join Greta on her toilet-less
trans-Atlantic catamaran.

I presume NonGNU Elpa was your idea, and it was the right one.  Now we just
need to take that initiative to its logical conclusion.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-04 13:46 UTC|newest]

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     [not found]                     ` <AM0PR06MB65776698F6C7E2560B3998E996D00@AM0PR06MB6577.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
2021-01-07  8:49                       ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
     [not found]                     ` <E1kxQ31-0004sd-LG@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                       ` <uy2h5xbhd@gentoo.org>
2021-01-07 11:46                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 19:38                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-07 20:23                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 11:54                               ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:23                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:35                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 18:18                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
     [not found]                       ` <X/bNnq5XiOMeKhgu@protected.rcdrun.com>
2021-01-08  6:25                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08  6:30                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:45                             ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:11                               ` frepology.org Jean Louis
2021-01-11  4:47                                 ` frepology.org Richard Stallman
     [not found]                     ` <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                       ` <E1kxGCp-0006oD-PA@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                         ` <83wnwolu2i.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-01-07 18:18                           ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 19:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:07                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 21:17                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-08 17:22                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 19:43                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-09  6:41                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:48                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  5:59                                     ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11  4:43                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:35                                         ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:10                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 15:20                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 15:28                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12  6:11                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:08                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13  5:43                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:46                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-09  6:34                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 19:04                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11  4:43                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  6:37                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:43                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <23f3f74f-c3d3-ec74-f1da-d0416d026c0d@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                           ` <E1kxGuO-00079C-NR@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                             ` <b94804db-7140-d450-6fc2-5afa440a8736@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                               ` <E1kxZru-0007Cl-DD@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-07 18:46                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 21:07                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08  7:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:14                                       ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-08 11:46                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:51                                           ` Aldric Giacomoni
2021-01-08 16:23                                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-08 18:47                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:42                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:11                                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:09                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:29                                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 19:17                                           ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2021-01-09  6:41                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 14:24                                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:09                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:19                                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-04 13:46                                               ` dick [this message]
2021-10-04 14:20                                                 ` Time to dial back the dialectic? [was: Re: Privileges and practicalities] Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 20:53                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  7:25                                             ` Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Jean Louis
2021-01-10 17:18                                             ` Devin Prater
2021-01-11 15:57                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:40                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  6:40                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:47                                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:10                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:32                                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13  5:42                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-08 13:53                                       ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Jean Louis
2021-01-08 17:22                                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-08 18:38                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 19:40                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10  6:06                                         ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-11  4:42                                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-11 13:00                                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-12  6:11                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 14:10                                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-13  5:42                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  6:37                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:41                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  6:31                                       ` Sv: " arthur miller
2021-01-13  5:29                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:37                                           ` Arthur Miller
     [not found]                                 ` <2c5399e3-fa36-575d-d662-c7498dc334d6@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                                   ` <X/dsHBhcgPAXbqwe@protected.rcdrun.com>
2021-01-07 20:34                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 20:47                                       ` Jean Louis
     [not found]                                 ` <834kjslexq.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                   ` <E1kxcV3-0005Rt-7a@fencepost.gnu.org>
2021-01-08  7:06                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 11:48                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 12:34                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 13:56                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 14:45                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 18:27                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 19:38                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09  6:41                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:54                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  6:07                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10  6:04                                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-10  6:04                                           ` Richard Stallman
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     [not found]                         ` <83eeiwlsn6.fsf@gnu.org>
2021-01-07 19:38                           ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 20:31                               ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 20:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 21:00                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08  6:58                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-08 10:24                                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-08 11:28                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-01-09  6:35                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09  8:36                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09  8:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10  6:13                                   ` Sv: " arthur miller

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