From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Max Brieiev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:01:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87czj7gpyp.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <7f8b6dc4-a621-2ab4-86ab-79325a1f2a0c@yandex.ru> <95a64961-9a77-bd7a-a4c2-77ae3f9e5bb7@rixotstudio.cz> <5050033.Gxf8NU8Bx7@galex-713.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22694"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Alexandre Garreau To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 28 13:11:37 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nOesL-0005eE-0A for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 28 Feb 2022 04:01:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from thinkmax ([91.245.108.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l2-20020aa7cac2000000b003f9b3ac68d6sm5906458edt.15.2022.02.28.04.01.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 Feb 2022 04:01:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Jean Louis's message of "Sun, 27 Feb 2022 16:51:08 +0300") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::62b (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62b; envelope-from=max.brieiev@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 27 X-Spam_score: 2.7 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.659, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 07:10:49 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:779 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: > I don't think so. Political situation in Ukraine is more complicated > then what you state. It would be good if we could just accuse Putin to > be the cause. But it is not cause. I am a Ukrainian, speaking Russian, living in Kyiv. What you say is a complete propaganda. You know, 60% of population in Kyiv speaks Russian. And yet, we hate those "leberators" that are coming into our land. It's much less complicated than you are trying to pose here. We are on our land and we will defend it, we are fighting for our freedom. This is as simple as that. Ukraine is as united as it had never been before the war started. Leave your tales about nazis to someone, who is as brainwashed as you. The problem of nazis in Ukraine is no bigger than in other European countries. It is heavily exaggerated by Russion propaganda. There are some nazi groups, of course, but they are not prominent at all. Just look at Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkiv, Mariupol, Kherson. Those cities are right to the Russian border, like less than 100 kms. Those are cities, where the majority speaks Russian. Nonetheless, Russian troops have very hard times to conquere *any* of those cities. They thought they would be welcomed here with flowers, but instead they are welcomed with molotov coctails and guerilla warfare. Nobody takes a shit of this nazi bullshit. Zelensky is a jew, and he is a native Russian speaker. So whom are they going to liberate here, if a Russian speaking jew is our president? That is all I wanted to say. I am not going to comment all other nonsense of your lengthy post.