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From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 03:41:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkrxxmib.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2b564d99d3a09e73c98e@heytings.org

Gregory Heytings wrote:

>> I don't see any failure. Richard's complaint was that
>> characters without glyphs were getting displayed as long
>> hex strings rather than the "diamond" that they were
>> previously displayed as. I think the complaint has merit.
>> It seems to me to be a classic case for a user option.
>
> You forget to mention that the context in which this bug was
> fixed in January is that RMS complained that ligatures such
> as "fi" showed up as a diamond [...] At that time what he
> wanted is that Emacs would automatically replace such
> ligatures by two letters in his Linux console, and that's
> what he got: Eli improved the latin1-display-ucs-per-lynx
> function in fd42ba3adb. At that time diamonds were
> considered "unhelpful", and he said for example: "I doubt
> any user wants to see a diamond instead of `fi'."
>
> During that discussion, the bug that is now objected against
> was also fixed, by 10c680551e.
>
> I, too, doubt any user wants to see a diamond instead of an
> actual character! Why are these diamonds suddenly useful
> again? How comes that a proposed solution with which
> ligatures such as "fi" are actually displayed as "fi", with
> which UTF-8 is actually supported instead of having to
> resort to ugly hacks such as latin1-display-ucs-per-lynx,
> and with which missing glyphs are in fact again displayed
> with these same diamonds, is criticized?

Guys, we are not fighting a holy war over in what order to
make the Sign of the Cross here, right?

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal




      reply	other threads:[~2022-09-03  1:41 UTC|newest]

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2022-09-02 14:39                       ` Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond chad
2022-09-02 14:42                         ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-02 18:49                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-02 19:41                           ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-02 21:13                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-02 20:39                           ` chad
2022-09-02 21:14                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-02 21:52                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-09-03  0:33                               ` Gregory Heytings
2022-09-03  1:41                                 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]

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