Is ChatGTP SaaSS? (was: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: llm)

[Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>]

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Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>   > > As for LLMs that run on servers, they are a different issue entirely.
>   > > They are all SaaSS (Service as a Software Substitute), and SaaSS is
>   > > always unjust.
>   > >
>   > > See https://gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
>   > > for explanation.
>
>   > I do not fully agree here. A number of more powerful LLMs have very
>   > limiting hardware requirements. For example, some LLMs require 64+Gbs of
>   > RAM to run:
>
> That is true, and it is unfortunate.  There may be no practical way
> to run a certain model except for SaaSS.
>
> That does not alter the injustice of SaaSS.  So we should not silence
> our criticism of SaaSS in those cases,

This is a rather theoretical consideration, but, talking about ChatGTP
(owned by OpenAI) specifically, should it even be considered SaaSS?

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
says:

    Using a joint project's servers isn't SaaSS because the computing
    you do in this way isn't your own. For instance, if you edit pages
    on Wikipedia, you are not doing your own computing; rather, you are
    collaborating in Wikipedia's computing. Wikipedia controls its own
    servers, but organizations as well as individuals encounter the
    problem of SaaSS if they do their computing in someone else's
    server.

Then, ChatGTP is using the user input to train their model:
https://techunwrapped.com/you-can-now-make-chatgpt-not-train-with-your-queries/

    ... what is constant is that the company can use
    our conversations with ChatGPT to train the model. This is not a
    surprise or a secret, the company has always reported it.

There is no doubt that ChatGTP itself is not libre - its model is not
available to public. However, users of the ChatGPT model are technically
providing input that is collaboratively editing that model weights
(training the model further). So, using ChatGTP is a little bit akin
editing Wikipedia pages - collaborating to improve ChatGTP.

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