From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: 2022-06-13 Emacs news Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 01:21:34 +0200 Message-ID: <878rpx5x8h.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87tu8nn77i.fsf@sachachua.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1814"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:hnmKFDBpCPtdouH5ugCmUaplGX0= Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 07:05:12 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o1hgu-0000JH-Kn for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 07:05:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44618 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1hgt-0003t4-Ff for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 01:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1cKZ-0004ke-8R for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 19:21:47 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:39048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o1cKW-0000mi-G5 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2022 19:21:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o1cKU-0004XP-Kt for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 01:21:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 01:04:26 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:879 Archived-At: Sacha Chua wrote: >- Emacs development: > - [emacs-devel: Lots of discussion about Org vs Texinfo, > Org export performance, and what describe-package should > show] > () gmane.emacs.help and in particular the user incal, whose sensible opinions and formidable Elisp he for more than one decade now has offered the community free of charge, has once again been excluded by the lackeys of Big Data AKA the military-algorithmic complex. The reason is political - supposedly because of incal's involvement in the so-called Genova project, and its many offshoots. https://dataswamp.org/~incal/genova.el https://dataswamp.org/~incal/common-lisp/general-base/ While it wasn't EXACTLY like described - to anyone who remembers it - more importantly, what does it matter all these years ago? Practitioners had a different mindset back then and that was not just true for me. Some were constantly running on only a few microchips from total short circuit, this while the collective trajectories reproducing this discures were just as bad and even more numerous at that. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal