From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joel Reicher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:27:28 +1100 Message-ID: <86zfmosy8v.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87sevj9b50.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <871q33rj7v.fsf@dataswamp.org> <86ed73qhly.fsf@gnu.org> <87frrjoryg.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org> <87h692ed5s.fsf@dataswamp.org> <877c9wvfyz.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26112"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 28 04:27:54 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GQ6-0006gF-SN for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2024 04:27:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GPp-0007b1-OE; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:27:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GPo-0007ao-Ip for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x62c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62c]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t5GPn-0006Vo-1X for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 23:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-20cb47387ceso32480665ad.1 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 20:27:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1730086053; x=1730690853; darn=gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9H3uNV9LM/O3lViIH5L22ajd7xFfSmYbXMNFr/INARU=; b=XvthFWxAyXEiejbK1YcvY/yC0D5TRB2k/Pz9btg4JV9yDzwP/kxurq1T6Th58VhJoX zHBCW7sIYITwnpRRRTwQXhKfY8HF4HZx4L08OiTU1BOfIVgMJZ8hgSmZuWnGhS/tGu6t xc21MF/qNU9z84KNQQ0dH7xjwkv9YF1e2lqYAjR83gHWOjOceLrqw9ZGBQLRaqDQI6ii AQsEGAMFRfKWa0AG9R3XoiNmOm1cg5G+PMDnW1Lp+nxeFySR9VxHMLPrhTzwCddgNwDM 4qyCp9f/xK5pguaonrQJytgQYYozhc9zNLTDD5LfmowX9ZULqFyqxtVUIzQdoKtg7lZd iy5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1730086053; x=1730690853; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=9H3uNV9LM/O3lViIH5L22ajd7xFfSmYbXMNFr/INARU=; b=W9QeI/nPGcvgthI1a9fD0kJSEzsnDqiJuIxvZ4S01CPHnEQsTh2yg5vRFUnccxFshr B8m/3Qs2VmM3w16EpvFx5g+5+yo5G/6eE6lEjMJlTDmDOjs2Ui/7iCsKLOUeduo0uZ/K 3I+RLuh/hMQPKouZEDCqy9w7Bs+T8WpHgJxam1mcrgzaDmgirHuexERDx9Vg7TXE637c CJNzEaXIFm9BPDiHw+nic1Sir0pjDFwhj66uqvUkCbueWTz9hT86Me5RmgcxQEraomZo wpAgwCpRZCo9IpZSZxZdv9IXn2LwR8ZYWxFY3xczFSAif+f+tSq+1aRwfCY/sH4F99yN 80vw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwkG82tAHBiJIbbSCkH8NUaO0oEmAGtnlOSp3nbzh7U7/8nXnJX EEwPa7XyBMHfA6W3YBmNazIw0/KZxHfub+cTe5BBHopLLb+BYHSdqJNs9MlX X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH9BqByWQwnSCQm7NMlX9Y7pvc1onv3+DOi6wBBeqDaNybdv0NF3+lYakYqqmimUNxCDGmm6A== X-Received: by 2002:a17:903:40c9:b0:20c:c694:f6c6 with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-210c6c52417mr84287645ad.49.1730086053026; Sun, 27 Oct 2024 20:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from LAPTOP-ACR66VVN (139-218-25-158.sta.wbroadband.net.au. [139.218.25.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-210bbf4332fsm41926195ad.16.2024.10.27.20.27.31 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 27 Oct 2024 20:27:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877c9wvfyz.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:44:52 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62c; envelope-from=joel.reicher@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62c.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:1257 Archived-At: RW1hbnVlbCBCZXJnIDxpbmNhbEBkYXRhc3dhbXAub3JnPiB3cml0ZXM6Cgo+IE5vLCBJIHRoaW5r IHRoZSBmcnVzdHJhdGlvbiwgSUlSQywgd3MgYmVjYXVzZQo+Cj4gKDEpIE5vIG9uZSBlbHNlIHdh cyBlbnRodXNpYXN0aWMgYWJvdXQgbWFraW5nIEVsaXNwIGJldHRlciwgaW4gCj4gICAgIHBhcnQg Zm9yIGl0cyBvd24gc2FrZSwgdG8gbWFrZSBvY2ggdHJ5IHRvIG1ha2UgRW1hY3MgYSBMaXNwIAo+ ICAgICBwb3dlcmhvdXNlIHVwIHRoZXJlIHdpdGggQ0wgYW5kIENsb2p1cmUgKGFuZCBvdGhlcnMp OyBhbmQKClRvIG15IG1pbmQgdGhhdCdzIGEgYml0IGxpa2Ugc2F5aW5nIG1ha2UgYSBtb3VzZSB0 cmFwIGJldHRlciBieSAKbWFraW5nIGl0IG1vcmUgbGlrZSBhIGJlYXIgdHJhcC4KCkJ5IGFsbCBt ZWFucyBtYWtlIGVsaXNwIGJldHRlciwgYnV0IGRvbid0IGNvbXBhcmUgaXQgdG8gbGFuZ3VhZ2Vz IAp0aGF0IGFyZSB1c2VkIGZvciBkaWZmZXJlbnQgdGhpbmdzLgoKPiAoMikgZXZlbiBtb3JlIHNv LCBJIHdhcyBmcnVzdHJhdGVkIHdpdGggdGhhdCBib2FzdGluZywgCj4gICAgIGZ1bmN0aW9uYWwg cHJvZ3JhbW1pbmcgaXMgc3VwZXJpb3IgKGFic29sdXRlbHkgbm90IHRydWUpLCAKPiAgICAgTGlz cCBpcyBidWlsdC1pbiBzdXBlcmlvciB0byBvdGhlciBsYW5ndWFnZXMsIExpc3BzIHN5bnRheCAK PiAgICAgaXMgYW4gYWR2YW50YWdlLCBMaXNwIHByb2dyYW1zIGFyZSBzaG9ydCBhbmQgZWxlZ2Fu dCAoeWVzLCAKPiAgICAgc29tZXRpbWVzLCBiZWZvcmUgdGhleSBnZXQgdG9vIGxvbmcsIGUuZy4g Z251cy1zdW0uZWwgWzEzIAo+ICAgICAyMzkgbGluZXNdLCBMaXNwIHByb2dyYW1tZXJzIGhhdmUg YSBiZXR0ZXIgbWVudGFsIAo+ICAgICB1bmRlcnN0YW5kaW5nIG9mIHRoZWlyIHByb2dyYW1zIGNv bXBhcmVkIHRvIG90aGVyIAo+ICAgICBwcm9ncmFtbWVycyBhbmQgdGhlaXIgc29ycnkgbGFuZ3Vh Z2VzLgoKRGlmZmVyZW50IGxhbmd1YWdlcyBhcmUgZ29vZCBmb3IgZGlmZmVyZW50IHRoaW5ncy4g U2F5aW5nIG9uZSAKbGFuZ3VhZ2UgaXMgYmV0dGVyIHRoYW4gYW5vdGhlciBvbmx5IG1ha2VzIHNl bnNlIGlmIHRoZXkgYXJlIGJlaW5nIAp1c2VkIGZvciB0aGUgc2FtZSB0aGluZywgYW5kIG9ubHkg aW4gdGhlIGNvbnRleHQgb2YgdGhhdCB0aGluZy4KCkkgbGlrZSBMaXNwLCBidXQgSSB3b3VsZG4n dCB1c2UgaXQgZm9yIGV2ZXJ5dGhpbmcuCgpSZWdhcmRzLAoKICAgICAgICAtIEpvZWwKCi0tLQp2 aWEgZW1hY3MtdGFuZ2VudHMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IChodHRwczovL2xpc3RzLmdudS5vcmcvbWFp bG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9lbWFjcy10YW5nZW50cykK