Re: A new filter-based customization interface

Re: A new filter-based customization interface

[Madhu]

* Richard Stallman <E1tQfWS-0001AV-O9@fencepost.gnu.org> :
Wrote on Wed, 25 Dec 2024 23:30:56 -0500:

[??? wrote]
>   > People promote non-free software all the on this list e.g. with
>   > @gmail in their addresses or talk about non-free operating systems.
>   > There's even a package solely to support non-free software in Elpa.
>
> I think we are miscommunicating.  Promoting nonfree software, in the
> GNU Project, is much more specific than you envision.  It means urging
> users to do something (now, or later) in a way that involves _their_
> running nonfree software.  If you tell people to look at that page on
> https://justpaste.it/, you're directing _them_ to run its nonfree
> Javascript code.
>
> Just talking about some nonfree software is not promoting it unless
> you encourage or direct people to use it.  For instance, mentioning
> Windows or MacOS as part of making GNU Emacs run on them, or saying
> that it does, is not promoting those systems.  Sending mail that says
> it is from gmail doesn't direct other people to use gmail -- they can
> receive that message using any email facility.

On the other hand sending mail to any gmail user compels that user to
use non-free software and entrench them in non-free bondage.  This may
not not be an issue for GNU as an organization it should prick the
conscience of any one who is actually in communication with gmail users,
and promoting their stumbling.



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Re: A new filter-based customization interface

[Jean Louis]

* Madhu <enometh@meer.net> [2024-12-27 09:12]:
> On the other hand sending mail to any gmail user compels that user to
> use non-free software and entrench them in non-free bondage.  This may
> not not be an issue for GNU as an organization it should prick the
> conscience of any one who is actually in communication with gmail users,
> and promoting their stumbling.

I am aware of it. That is why:

- in our team we use our XMPP network;

- in our team, we use our e-mail addresses and domains; running on
  fully free software;

- we enlighten each staff member to understand what is free software;

For friends and family, clients, I can always send them link how to
get their own free email address.

Sure! Here's the text with an emoji:

Remember, you can always do something about it! 😊

Jean Louis

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Re: A new filter-based customization interface

[dick.r.chiang]

Madhu,

Your sentiments are well received.  We must always strive to uphold
software freedom while being mindful of hidden but insidious pitfalls.
Merry Christmas to one and all, and may the light of freedom shine on
all who seek its embrace.

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Re: A new filter-based customization interface

[Joel Reicher]

Madhu <enometh@meer.net> writes:

> * Richard Stallman <E1tQfWS-0001AV-O9@fencepost.gnu.org> :

[...]

>> Just talking about some nonfree software is not promoting it 
>> unless you encourage or direct people to use it.  For instance, 
>> mentioning Windows or MacOS as part of making GNU Emacs run on 
>> them, or saying that it does, is not promoting those systems. 
>> Sending mail that says it is from gmail doesn't direct other 
>> people to use gmail -- they can receive that message using any 
>> email facility.
>
> On the other hand sending mail to any gmail user compels that 
> user to use non-free software and entrench them in non-free 
> bondage.  This may not not be an issue for GNU as an 
> organization it should prick the conscience of any one who is 
> actually in communication with gmail users, and promoting their 
> stumbling.

The user you're sending to is *already* a gmail user. By all means 
you can take it upon yourself to make sure they understand the 
consequences of the choice they have already made, but the mere 
act of sending to that existing address does not make things 
better or worse (although the contents of the email might).

Regards,

        - Joel

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