From: "Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists" <emacs-tangents@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: brickviking@gmail.com, sbaugh@catern.com, luangruo@yahoo.com,
emacs-tangents@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Not clobbering bash history
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2023 11:13:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86h6ktknk4.fsf@aarsen.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1rBRwH-0004og-AI@fencepost.gnu.org>
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Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
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> > > If two different shells will try to write history into one single file,
> > > are they doomed to give bad results, one way or another...
>
> > Not necessarily. If both shells use a single write() syscall on an
> > O_APPEND file, they should work as expected to my awareness.
>
> We are miscommunicating. The way you expect it to work is, in my
> opinion, a bad result -- various histories interspersed.
>
> It seems to me that the crucial thing is for each Bash process
> to have its own separate history.
>
> Do you think that behavior would be bad?
Bad? No. It's not what I'd prefer, though.
Note that, with either separate or interspersed histories, history
should never be lost, so, if a file is being shared by multiple shells
(even if it is not continuously re-read), care should be taken not to
lose data.
> > If a bash process decides to rotate the history file as a result of
> > HISTSIZE, and another bash process decides to do the same, one of their
> > new history entries would be lost due to the other one overriding it.
> > This would be a bug.
>
> Only if they share one single history file. If each has its own
> history file, each can handle it as if it were your only Bash process.
Indeed. How would these histories be recalled, though? Which file does
a new shell read?
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Arsen Arsenović
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2023-11-22 20:43 ` [OT] Not clobbering bash history Jens Schmidt via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2023-11-22 21:50 ` Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
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2023-12-07 5:48 ` Emanuel Berg
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2023-12-07 5:52 ` Yuri Khan
2023-12-07 6:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-07 6:44 ` Jean Louis
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2023-12-07 13:06 ` Arsen Arsenović via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
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2023-12-08 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
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