From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 16:45:24 +0200 Message-ID: <83y2h3ij23.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6193374b-a60d-ba82-91b5-afdede18e3bb@yandex.ru> <72871d3a-3b6a-d6fd-01cc-4248f817923c@yandex.ru> <801f93f3-8c1f-5f5f-6351-e1169bc309ae@yandex.ru> <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> <23f3f74f-c3d3-ec74-f1da-d0416d026c0d@yandex.ru> <834kjslexq.fsf@gnu.org> <83pn2fkiv5.fsf@gnu.org> <26475995-EEB8-4B71-8B06-A7B7B4C8A737@gnu.support> <834kjrk3ox.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38853"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 15:46:27 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxt21-0009vz-Ev for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 15:46:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36780 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxt20-0006ul-3N for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 09:46:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxt1R-0006tl-M3 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 09:45:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37704) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxt1O-0001m7-A8; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 09:45:46 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2841 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kxt12-0004wg-1a; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 09:45:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Fri, 08 Jan 2021 13:56:40 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:521 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 13:56:40 +0000 > CC: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, > arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru > From: Jean Louis > > Does that mean you wish to exclusively include repology.el into GNU ELPA? > > Like you can't use that package without including it in GNU ELPA? Can you use website directly? > > I can. > > What is real problem there? I thought it was obvious. Since it's evidently isn't, let me cross the t's and dot the i's for you: We develop Emacs because we think it helps users. We don't develop it as some academic exercise to be shown in some ivory tower, nor as merely an example of what Free Software can become. I came to Emacs because it helped me do my everyday's work, and I've taken upon myself the burden of being its maintainer because I want it to help others, and become better at helping them. Thus, whether I personally can access that site is immaterial. I don't need your, or anybody's, permission to do whatever I want with my systems. It's the Emacs user community that I'm trying to help, and I believe I'm not the only one who needs to do those tasks that I described. Refusal to make this, or any other package that has the similar audacity of showing information about software in a completely neutral way, to be available from GNU ELPA diminishes from the community, and thus hurts me in my effort to help the community members to enjoy software freedom. That is why I'm speaking up.