From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: [External] : Re: master 127ab231be 1/2: Attempt to clarify Input Focus documentation Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 19:24:51 +0300 Message-ID: <83y1ubqsvg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <166368675497.15121.15081377110947098460@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220920151239.61451C00871@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87czbpihyl.fsf@yahoo.com> <2d1b683c2245a1b1035c@heytings.org> <87v8phgfv0.fsf@yahoo.com> <2d1b683c22ba04ac1445@heytings.org> <83h711ueqo.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmfpeyae.fsf@yahoo.com> <83czbovqfs.fsf@gnu.org> <83r104u1k3.fsf@gnu.org> <83pmfotyo8.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfkkdspw.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31272"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, gregory@heytings.org, larsi@gnus.org, luangruo@yahoo.com To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 22 20:14:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1obQiv-0007zN-9d for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:14:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56606 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obQiu-0000hu-AM for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:14:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41992) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obP0D-0006sz-FL for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 12:24:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42168) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obP0C-0004f8-Vv; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 12:24:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=z7T7AQAXoUoJpaaUnanuIq9fhEHhd0pQEdSOmWmV+rc=; b=YD45YhiIjAO3 nwRSzL58p5vA8HH7sM8ZntwUN57GlDQKmvZfS2s3N/4tCmL4Sl49vtO3Bx61WMWgxc+CJtk8eNWUH lvaT1KTESQYDG71iBnrsDIO6bRwlEh+gTXhLbea8S20E67sq/4t+4e3QujyV16gPINEGiwUX5OWa+ UF29D7Exnwr1+npf78IXVPnxEbkQcOY/fiSGGaad6IpP2krNngFH30creo9hntLKLI1FAJOV7IBoS ed1oDdMErofTL5T4kYXTaPNnqrM6Ei4ghJMbU6TIhYr7MJJEBwF+DrJ5rn30ute/04ecKMA2rg7qj dZBaQ7Ey7NO7UvPY2WlYNg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2315 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obP0C-0007Sy-6m; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 12:24:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from chad on Thu, 22 Sep 2022 12:16:59 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:920 Archived-At: > From: chad > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 12:16:59 -0400 > Cc: Drew Adams , Eli Zaretskii , > "gregory@heytings.org" , "larsi@gnus.org" , Po Lu > > Back in the day, X programs knew how to distinguish between windows appearing/disappearing on their own > and the window under the mouse being changed by the window manager, and focus could be managed > appropriately. WM's of the time also had (configurable) thresholds for whether such accidental movements > would trigger focus changes or not. Ironically, the MS-Windows implementation of this feature also has such thresholds. Like how much time should the mouse hover over a window before that window gets focus.