From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 21:31:18 +0200 Message-ID: <835z48lf21.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6193374b-a60d-ba82-91b5-afdede18e3bb@yandex.ru> <72871d3a-3b6a-d6fd-01cc-4248f817923c@yandex.ru> <801f93f3-8c1f-5f5f-6351-e1169bc309ae@yandex.ru> <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> <83wnwolu2i.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21260"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 07 20:33:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxb2J-0005Ra-46 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 20:33:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35582 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxb2I-0004SY-07 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:33:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37886) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxb0V-0003nX-D2 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:31:39 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxb0U-0002KX-0S; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:31:38 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2857 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kxb0B-00049L-6P; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:31:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: (ams@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:490 Archived-At: > From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" > Cc: bugs@gnu.support, arthur.miller@live.com, rms@gnu.org, > dgutov@yandex.ru, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-tangents@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 13:18:35 -0500 > > > The GNU project doesn't want to give non-free software the remote > > changes of success, so mentioning or linking to it unless it is > > very well known would be working against its own goals. > > So you are basically saying that no GNU package can ever help me > find out information about potentially non-free software? > > Why should a GNU project ever give any legitimacy to a (specifically, > unknown) non-free software program? E.g., by listing information > about it or linking to it. I explained why. You elided that. I guess you are unwilling to engage in a serious discussion of a practical problem. Oh well. > I see no problem here, either: repology.org doesn't promote or > legitimize any of the packages whose information it records. > > It does so by listing (describing) them; that legitimizes the non-free > programs. You are saying those programs are breaking the law? > Maybe we should continue this discussion on another, more suitable > GNU list. > > When I remeber, I try to replace emacs-devel@ -- but sometimes one > forgets. I've replaced emacs-devel@ with emacs-tangents@; maybe some > other list might be more appropriate? I see no reason to continue, since you basically ignore all the substance. I presented a practical problem, and you instead chose to respond on an abstract philosophical level. Sorry, not interested.