From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexandre Garreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 16:52:34 +0100 Message-ID: <5318097.kKuCzG4M7Y@galex-713.eu> References: <87ee3p4xn4.fsf@zoho.eu> <5fa3d9eb-0912-2243-829c-53595c73b517@rixotstudio.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="nextPart7716351.7VY6Kh71T4" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8182"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Jacob Hrbek , emacs-tangents@gnu.org To: goncholden Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 01 16:53:05 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4oC-0001wN-0n for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 16:53:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48196 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4oB-0002ds-3j for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4nq-0002di-VJ for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:5884:8305::1] (port=47784 helo=galex-713.eu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4np-0005CT-Ft for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:52:42 -0500 Original-Received: from gal by galex-713.eu with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4nj-00F8BS-1W; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 16:52:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:5884:8305::1 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:5884:8305::1; envelope-from=galex-713@galex-713.eu; helo=galex-713.eu X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:813 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --nextPart7716351.7VY6Kh71T4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Le mardo, 1-a de marto 2022, 16-a horo kaj 29:04 CET goncholden=20 a =C3=A9crit : > NATO is likely not to fight Russia over Ukraine. Yet the 30- member bloc > is unwilling to acknowledge this truth. By western naivity, I=20 meant > the general naivity of citizens about their governments. we are not naive on this ground, most of us (with some exceptions=20 especially among US citizens and swiss) know our government are=20 not really democratic and we the people have no real power. some power sometimes on some ground with a lot of efforts, work,=20 and the chance to have policies slightly more (but decreasingly)=20 liberal, that=E2=80=99s it --nextPart7716351.7VY6Kh71T4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"

Le mardo, 1-a de marto 2022, 16-a horo kaj 29:04 CET goncholden a =C3=A9= crit :

>= ; NATO is likely not to fight Russia over Ukraine.  Yet the 30-member = bloc

>= ; is unwilling to acknowledge this truth.  By western naivity, I meant=

>= ; the general naivity of citizens about their governments.


we are not naive on this ground, most of us (with some exceptions especi= ally among US citizens and swiss) know our government are not really democr= atic and we the people have no real power.


some power sometimes on some ground with a lot of efforts, work, and the= chance to have policies slightly more (but decreasingly) liberal, that=E2= =80=99s it

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