From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Louis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 13:53:51 +0000 Message-ID: <4CB1E3C9-BC5B-4C8B-984B-AB4434C889D6@gnu.support> References: <6193374b-a60d-ba82-91b5-afdede18e3bb@yandex.ru> <72871d3a-3b6a-d6fd-01cc-4248f817923c@yandex.ru> <801f93f3-8c1f-5f5f-6351-e1169bc309ae@yandex.ru> <83k0sp27f6.fsf@gnu.org> <23f3f74f-c3d3-ec74-f1da-d0416d026c0d@yandex.ru> <83sg7bkiz6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40471"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, rms@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 14:54:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxsDg-000AQy-Q0 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 14:54:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxsDf-00042I-Sf for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:54:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48404) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxsDR-000424-6Y for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:54:09 -0500 Original-Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:50073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxsDO-0008AQ-Q9; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:54:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [10.152.120.21] ([::ffff:41.210.145.49]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_CHACHA20_POLY1305) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000567CE.000000005FF863FA.00000865; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 06:54:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83sg7bkiz6.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:518 Archived-At: You can study, is free=2E I don't see problem with anybody wishing to study anything=2E On January 8, 2021 7:04:13 AM UTC, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: "Alfred M=2E Szmidt" >> Cc: eliz@gnu=2Eorg, bugs@gnu=2Esupport, arthur=2Emiller@live=2Ecom, >> rms@gnu=2Eorg, ulm@gentoo=2Eorg, emacs-tangents@gnu=2Eorg >> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 16:07:13 -0500 >>=20 >> > You are exagerating=2E Nobody is saying don't do research, I'm >quite >> > sure you are capable of finding that information on your own=2E=20 >But it >> > is a different thing for GNU do provide that information for >you=2E >>=20 >> But GNU software shouldn't help me in research? >>=20 >> In the research of non-free software, obviously no=2E > >And that is a serious problem, because GNU maintainers need to do that >quite frequently, as part of their job they do for GNU=2E > >And other software users and professionals are likely to do that as >well, in order to study software algorithms and implementations=2E Let >me remind you that (AFAIK) one of the main reasons for starting GNU >was the inability to share ideas about software design and >implementation, due to commercial entities' enforcement of a system >where showing the code was prohibited=2E It would be ironic if the GNU >project prevented its followers from exercising the same freedom, by >denying us the information about where to find that source code to >begin with=2E