From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adrien Brochard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Emacs User Survey 2020 Results Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:04:52 -0500 Message-ID: <09062f78-291f-242f-dffc-c6f524f03a1d@gmx.com> References: <27f2aad6-2c1e-1127-bce6-5e96a241db56@gmx.com> <87y2i6rd4c.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <87v9daqkwn.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22270"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 To: =?UTF-8?Q?G=c3=b6ktu=c4=9f_Kayaalp?= , emacs-tangents@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 14:30:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1knM1y-0005iW-EF for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 14:30:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47008 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knM1x-0000nh-Ex for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:30:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knLd4-0005PP-Ev for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:05:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:36189) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knLd1-0005GI-Lb for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:05:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1607605493; bh=wTDxogZAkNaPsLOa8opuC427lNkaQ50Ot3VU9ukJPI0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=l2Bm6oH0AICcoePDAKfNl7GdaO5AE4yPgss8zEgMAnoFiC8eUQgVjVYubugUM2c0Q 0eyxL3Gye4dM3V5CQ4p8vCRyLKc1y8BbK9cr7M/tIVWJ5HSUY05fu5YZzoDUkwJ7aO 5knv+xKeCXt8rMR0qORMARzVip2oPuiZL5A4KN+Y= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [192.168.1.178] ([96.246.99.76]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MNKhs-1kT2ml2Uf4-00Oq7I; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 14:04:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87v9daqkwn.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:vC2Er5/FvpBDyNuJ5/VONPEgq8AL5AQITMiKGfcHbXUFs+FjgVJ 71x01mMO9EaoIr1B4xo52oVCENZsNP56c/gRTVMEj4QApSsmLrxD9++XHzxGjRYBNIp/PCf g8u7xtBJvPU+NshWbOk9ILdcWlafmwgMcNoK6dNmh4EdzPCbAlqlrtaI/0HrF8/jmFHazD+ Zu/ejkpBFykOkn+9IgOSA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:uf4fe+yemUU=:8HRlthovUPLILHz1kzQuT4 xVTdR2o1Cwzjqcth5JFSQ+X+0f/nAgYwZoSoG/XQzyC3s0krSsjcmj3GIreDE/vAPt+WXbLuJ 1OdEJgiUe/yk2JiQw9nzElbCm4xDJwllovchoi+CdEaNpdVfmN4dWfXyta2NfNtBKZQtEYkUe Is+Vm5wy8LF7HalougnM9YpqPmQLjFxZlsITABwD7QpBCgFg4Kk55a26HnxcZ9LXWeZmOSLEV VYjRRgp8Bn169z78iZLoT/I7VnJ+iPdAbSoWgYgnqtjwfyQncrsLkHnlOmMZXzjCumGzuevht 5BdZFVBVOXJOXluF4LXA5CMDgZ2TB+mNNeRPq6T7JgDykqTWyWjldkX8XtfBhD+p8oxYI81a8 oDG8tGylWe9SWPGcV+e5ynKBuU1vitXE9V1w2zhPlshEdioX7yDZz9llOGLvSp7is1JeMMsOd QVfvO2vJCmmBFbHwqqfOrZoJI+N4Vt7nmS4EEvOLSqZbypgiI5eELNZOWOMSn3/k1AO0iGUUS IuxU0sqYrA7WNUmrMMiivnDvQOlO8iyaV3a/XsemiFeAGQvDcHr8J+UmUj0Khqw/QPmKVKfdX O+XdRPbvBfXrceVfL8yuTwsgHLulhSL0tPEZ0THRnNVdEsqQkivANm76Uh8k77SrEx9Hsm0vL 9gCDNTU8940HDBgdBJz9y2nAROkggnd4hHmpl1I0j4cHAlrfzNx0HV7IRDQTgdBCP6h1obPKR QdV7UHr1Nn29zTvcZZ0Ht5j+db66xeqKS8yVpVnwIewH4x3fQB4X96CEj+/Bq7SfXKEpsxCo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=abrochard@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:475 Archived-At: > Yep, sorry for participating in off topic stuff when the center piece is > your great work. Thanks for doing this, really enjoyed doing the survey > and going through the results. > > One thing I really find interesting and maybe troubling is how dominant > r/emacs is. Personally I generally enjoy r/emacs and r/orgmode, along > with a couple other islands of humanity in the reddit cesspool (and the > odd cool thread on other subs), but IMHO Emacs deserves a better place. > > I wonder if you have any insight into whether the reason r/emacs is > represented so heavily is because most your respondents come from > r/emacs or is it because r/emacs has become the de-facto place for Emacs > community. Thank you! I do have a theory formed from watching the data aggregate over time: there's a big portion of r/emacs because the survey was advertised there for a long time, forming a "long tail" of submissions. The post of the survey was pinned at the top of r/emacs for 5 weeks. And I remember that when the Hacker News post started trending, it brought in more responses than any other sources. Just that the Hacker News post disappeared after a day, when r/emacs stayed. We should plot aggregate submissions over time grouped by source to confirm.