* Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
@ 2010-10-01 13:29 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-01 13:50 ` David Kastrup
2010-10-01 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-10-01 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Is there any schedule for an Emacs 24 release?
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-01 13:29 Schedule for Emacs 24 release? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-10-01 13:50 ` David Kastrup
2010-10-01 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
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From: David Kastrup @ 2010-10-01 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Is there any schedule for an Emacs 24 release?
I don't think it makes much sense until bidi-display-reordering can be t
by default with good conscience.
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David Kastrup
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-01 13:50 ` David Kastrup
@ 2010-10-01 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-10-01 18:27 ` Chong Yidong
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2010-10-01 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Kastrup; +Cc: emacs-devel
> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 15:50:59 +0200
>
> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
> > Is there any schedule for an Emacs 24 release?
>
> I don't think it makes much sense until bidi-display-reordering can be t
> by default with good conscience.
And that still awaits 2 major developments (reordering of display
strings and bidirectional horizontal scroll), not to mention a few
minor ones.
Btw, I think Emacs 23.3 should be released as well, and before 24.1.
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-01 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2010-10-01 18:27 ` Chong Yidong
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From: Chong Yidong @ 2010-10-01 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: David Kastrup, emacs-devel
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Btw, I think Emacs 23.3 should be released as well, and before 24.1.
It will. I've discussed this with Stefan, and I think we might begin
the 23.3 pretest in, say, a month. Stefan wants to include smie.el, and
needs a bit more time to polish it first. (We'd also like to backport
some of the VC improvements from the trunk; the rest of 23.3 will be
mostly bugfixes.)
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-01 13:29 Schedule for Emacs 24 release? Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-01 13:50 ` David Kastrup
@ 2010-10-01 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-01 18:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-01 23:02 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Chong Yidong @ 2010-10-01 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Is there any schedule for an Emacs 24 release?
No. There is still quite a bit of work to do, at least in the areas
that I've been keeping a closer eye on. (The packaging system still
needs some tweaks, I hope to populate elpa.gnu.org with a few major
packages that are in the process of copyright assignment, the CEDET port
needs to be improved and synched to upstream, etc...)
I personally hope that we will be ready early for pretest next year.
But, Stefan has been taking a look at lexical scoping, and I haven't
checked in with him about whether he plans to include that for Emacs 24
(Stefan?). If it's added, I imagine that take at least a few additional
months.
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-01 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
@ 2010-10-01 18:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2010-10-01 23:02 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2010-10-01 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:
> I personally hope that we will be ready early for pretest next year.
That sounds like a reasonable thing to aim for. By then the gnutls
stuff should have gotten a thorough testing, for instance.
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larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-01 17:56 ` Chong Yidong
2010-10-01 18:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2010-10-01 23:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-02 7:14 ` David Kastrup
2010-10-03 14:24 ` Dan Nicolaescu
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2010-10-01 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: emacs-devel
> I personally hope that we will be ready early for pretest next year.
> But, Stefan has been taking a look at lexical scoping, and I haven't
> checked in with him about whether he plans to include that for Emacs 24
> (Stefan?). If it's added, I imagine that take at least a few additional
> months.
Yes, lexical scoping is slated for inclusion in Emacs-24 (as an
"experimental feature" at least). I hope to install it before Xmas.
Stefan
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2010-10-01 23:02 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2010-10-02 7:14 ` David Kastrup
2010-10-03 14:24 ` Dan Nicolaescu
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From: David Kastrup @ 2010-10-02 7:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I personally hope that we will be ready early for pretest next year.
>> But, Stefan has been taking a look at lexical scoping, and I haven't
>> checked in with him about whether he plans to include that for Emacs 24
>> (Stefan?). If it's added, I imagine that take at least a few additional
>> months.
>
> Yes, lexical scoping is slated for inclusion in Emacs-24 (as an
> "experimental feature" at least). I hope to install it before Xmas.
Stupid question: how will it impact the Elisp debuggers?
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David Kastrup
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-01 23:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-10-02 7:14 ` David Kastrup
@ 2010-10-03 14:24 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-10-05 23:04 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Dan Nicolaescu @ 2010-10-03 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Chong Yidong, emacs-devel
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I personally hope that we will be ready early for pretest next year.
>> But, Stefan has been taking a look at lexical scoping, and I haven't
>> checked in with him about whether he plans to include that for Emacs 24
>> (Stefan?). If it's added, I imagine that take at least a few additional
>> months.
>
> Yes, lexical scoping is slated for inclusion in Emacs-24 (as an
> "experimental feature" at least). I hope to install it before Xmas.
What's holding it up?
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* Re: Schedule for Emacs 24 release?
2010-10-03 14:24 ` Dan Nicolaescu
@ 2010-10-05 23:04 ` Stefan Monnier
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2010-10-05 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Nicolaescu; +Cc: Chong Yidong, emacs-devel
>>> I personally hope that we will be ready early for pretest next year.
>>> But, Stefan has been taking a look at lexical scoping, and I haven't
>>> checked in with him about whether he plans to include that for Emacs 24
>>> (Stefan?). If it's added, I imagine that take at least a few additional
>>> months.
>> Yes, lexical scoping is slated for inclusion in Emacs-24 (as an
>> "experimental feature" at least). I hope to install it before Xmas.
> What's holding it up?
Most concretely some paperwork for the closure-conversion code, but also
some clean up and simplifications.
Stefan
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