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From: Mohsen BANAN <list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:31:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yx2y61iim37.fsf@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pqmud47f.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:56:20 -0500")


>>>>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 15:56:20 -0500, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> said:

  Ted> It would be simplest to call tiles by name (symbol or string) and nest
  Ted> them inside frames (always using just one buffer per frame).  So you'd
  Ted> define a tile with margin, padding, etc. properties:

  Ted> (emacs-panel-tile-add "myfeeds" :margin 3 :text ... :call ...)
  Ted> (emacs-panel-tile-add 'mychat :padding 2 :update-function ... :call ...)

  Ted> and then use it in a tiled 3x3 layout:

  Ted> (emacs-panel-popup-add "status" :tiles '(nil "myfeeds" nil 'mychat)
  Ted>                                 :background "black"
  Ted>                                 :layout-manager '(tile :x 3 :y 3))

  Ted> Does that API seem OK?  Or do you still
  Ted> think a H/V split tree is needed and we
  Ted> should support irregular grids?  Remember,
  Ted> they are more powerful but also harder to
  Ted> use and configure...  So maybe we should
  Ted> start with simple tiling and add irregular
  Ted> grids later.

Agreed.

Let's start simple and see how things develop.

The API that you suggested is a fine starting point.

  MB> So, I am proposing experimentation with the following
  MB> hierarchy:

  MB> - Bare-Frames (no mini-buf, no menu, ...)
  MB>    - Related Windows
  MB>        - Panels (Collection of Tiles)
  MB>            - Tiles (Optionally Live and Active)

  Ted> Yes.  We're at bare frames now, slowly moving towards panels and tiles.
  Ted> I think a panel should be a frame.  I'm not sure what related windows
  Ted> are.

By related windows I meant things similar to the
(calc-keypad) where one window is the keypad
(panel of tiles) and the related window is the RPN
stack.

We can see how things evolve and revisit.

Thanks for considering my requests.

...Mohsen





  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-03 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-25  1:05 Emacs as a desktop environment Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25  7:31 ` joakim
     [not found] ` <87ei3n1dph.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de>
2011-05-25 10:28   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 16:45     ` PJ Weisberg
2011-05-25 16:33 ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-25 17:44   ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-25 19:26   ` Evans Winner
2011-05-25 21:58     ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-25 22:15       ` David Kastrup
2011-05-25 22:27         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-25 23:04       ` Christophe Poncy
2011-05-26  0:18     ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-26  0:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-26  5:45       ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-05-27  1:50         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-28  0:09           ` Nix
2011-05-28 10:25             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-28 10:44               ` Nix
2011-05-28 16:14                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-05-30  8:34                   ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-25 22:08   ` Nix
2011-05-25 23:57     ` Ken Raeburn
2011-05-26  7:27       ` joakim
2011-05-26  8:33         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-05-26 14:16         ` BBDB in the GNU ELPA (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 23:12           ` BBDB in the GNU ELPA Glenn Morris
2011-05-27  3:48             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-27 12:53             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 14:57           ` Bernt Hansen
2011-05-30 12:57             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 18:08               ` Glenn Morris
2011-05-30 19:27                 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-05-30 19:42                   ` Glenn Morris
2011-05-31  9:56                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-25 23:35   ` Emacs as a desktop environment Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26  1:33     ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-26 15:36     ` PJ Weisberg
2011-05-26 16:29       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26  0:58 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2011-05-26 15:21   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26 16:38     ` joakim
2011-05-27 12:50       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28  8:10         ` joakim
2011-05-28 17:49           ` just-the-text Emacs frame (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-28 20:01             ` Emacs24 Mobile (was: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame (was: Emacs as a desktop environment)) Mohsen BANAN
2011-05-29  1:44               ` Emacs24 Mobile Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-29  2:00                 ` T.V. Raman
2011-05-30 17:11                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-28 20:18             ` just-the-text Emacs frame Thierry Volpiatto
2011-05-28 22:06               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-29 10:12               ` joakim
2011-06-01 18:01             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02  2:43               ` Leo
2011-06-02  4:05                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 13:15                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 15:43                     ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 17:41                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 20:19                         ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-02 21:06                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:09                             ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-06-03 20:56                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 22:31                             ` Mohsen BANAN [this message]
2011-06-02 18:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 18:53                       ` GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties (was: just-the-text Emacs frame) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 20:49                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-02 20:59                           ` GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:21                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 16:29                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 16:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03 17:39                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 17:39                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 18:09                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 20:58                                   ` sending X client messages from Emacs (was: GTK "decorated" and "deletable" properties) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 21:27                                     ` sending X client messages from Emacs Chong Yidong
2011-06-10 21:49                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03  2:40                     ` just-the-text Emacs frame Leo
2011-06-03 11:36                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 11:55                         ` Leo
2011-06-03 15:15                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-04  3:51                             ` Leo
2011-06-04  7:02                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-03  9:24                     ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 11:40                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 13:16                         ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 15:11                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 15:27                             ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-03 16:30                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 17:37                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 18:06                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-03 19:08                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-06  8:38                                   ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-06  9:23                                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-06  9:34                                       ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-06 10:00                                       ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-06 20:52                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07  8:25                                           ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-10 16:28                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 17:35                                               ` T.V. Raman
2011-06-10 18:57                                               ` chad
2011-06-10 20:53                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11  8:04                                               ` Philipp Haselwarter
2011-06-11 10:45                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 15:54                                           ` org-src.el begin_src/end_src fontification may have been broken recently (was: just-the-text Emacs frame) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:02                                             ` org-src.el begin_src/end_src fontification may have been broken recently Stefan Monnier
2011-06-07 18:17                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:05                                             ` Jambunathan K
2011-06-07 19:02                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10  0:20                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 16:23                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 19:51                                                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-06-10 23:00                                                 ` Bastien
2011-06-11 10:41                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 10:53                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-11 18:16                                                 ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-12 22:24                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13  8:05                                                     ` Štěpán Němec
2011-06-13 14:38                                                       ` Eric Schulte
2011-06-13 15:36                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-14  9:41                                                         ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-14 16:08                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-15  8:12                                                             ` Julien Danjou
2011-06-15 14:55                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-20 13:32                                                                 ` Bastien
2011-06-06  8:32                               ` just-the-text Emacs frame Julien Danjou
2011-06-06  9:22                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-05-26 17:50     ` Emacs as a desktop environment Tom Tromey
2011-06-13 17:36 ` taking over global key events (X, NS, W32) (was: Emacs as a desktop environment) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 18:41   ` taking over global key events (X, NS, W32) joakim
2011-06-13 19:22     ` Mathias Dahl
2011-06-13 20:34       ` Ted Zlatanov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-10 17:38 just-the-text Emacs frame T. V. Raman

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