emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Marco Munari 17486.16140]

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Dear emacs developers,

I'm here again, to enlighten the beautiful logical instrument
that we use to create: emacs.

the following link contains my patch to:
- - introduce fringe-inactive face and the code to handle it,
  the selected window will results more hilighted, including the input line,
  when you press M-x or emacs decide to ask you something in the input line,
  you will see the current window(emacs terminology) less in evidence
  and the input-line hilighted in the fringe space.
  Moreover  C-x o  (other-window)  make in evidence the current window
  not only in the mode-line below the buffer, but also in each side of
  the window in fringe space (using fringe xor fringe-inactive faces).
- - introduce custom fringe-standard-bitmap-size (the default fringe
  bitmap wasted space, eg. in half fringe-mode the default bitmaps weren't
  appropriate), you can choose your preferred size for continued arrow etc..
  by M-x customize-variable fringe-standard-bitmap-size
- - introduce login distinction for .authinfo file (without this patch only one
  login for each machine is permitted)
and other changements that I made.

http://www.allerta.it/pub/emacs/mar_emacs_cvs.patch

All the best,
MARco
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http://xref.mm.homeunix.org:8380/~u17486.16140/mail/enlighten_emacs,en
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						http://www.allerta.it/
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Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Stefan Monnier]

> Dear Emacs developers,

> I'm here again, to enlighten the beautiful logical instrument
> that we use to create: emacs.

These features all sound great.  I haven't looked at your code, tho, because
we're in feature freeze and getting close to starting the pretest that will
lead to the release of Emacs-22, so it's actually a bad time to suggest
new features.

Please don't forget to come back after the release of Emacs-22, thank you,


        Stefan

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Richard Stallman]

These could be good features, but now is not the right time
to add new features.

Could you please suggest them again, a couple of months after Emacs 22
is released?

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Kim F. Storm]

"Marco Munari 17486.16140" <mar.develops@allerta.it> writes:

> Dear emacs developers,
>
> I'm here again, to enlighten the beautiful logical instrument
> that we use to create: emacs.
>

As others have explained, we cannot install such changes at this time.

May I suggest that you sign papers for your changes (past and future)
so we can install the changes as soon as 22.x has been released.


-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Kevin Rodgers]

Richard Stallman wrote:
> These could be good features, but now is not the right time
> to add new features.
> 
> Could you please suggest them again, a couple of months after Emacs 22
> is released?

Why don't you just save the articles you think will be useful,
for future reference?

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Richard Stallman]

    Why don't you just save the articles you think will be useful,
    for future reference?

I am overwhelmed with work.  I expect I would lose them or forget
about them.

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Kevin Rodgers]

Richard Stallman wrote:
>     Why don't you just save the articles you think will be useful,
>     for future reference?
> 
> I am overwhelmed with work.  I expect I would lose them or forget
> about them.

Computers are useful for keeping track of such things.  :-)

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Ken Manheimer]

On 5/1/06, Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Richard Stallman wrote:
> >     Why don't you just save the articles you think will be useful,
> >     for future reference?
> >
> > I am overwhelmed with work.  I expect I would lose them or forget
> > about them.
>
> Computers are useful for keeping track of such things.  :-)

um, this does not seem like a technology issue.  ie, the issue is not,
"i need a list to keep track of things", but a management issue - "i
need a process by which i can delegate things, so i only have to
personally keep track of what is necessary".  there's an opportune
delegation, in this case.  substantial free software project
management doesn't scale, without it.  emacs is a particularly
substantial such project...

--
ken manheimer
ken.manheimer@gmail.com
http://myriadicity.net

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Ken Manheimer]

On 5/1/06, Ken Manheimer <ken.manheimer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/1/06, Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Richard Stallman wrote:
> > >     Why don't you just save the articles you think will be useful,
> > >     for future reference?
> > >
> > > I am overwhelmed with work.  I expect I would lose them or forget
> > > about them.
> >
> > Computers are useful for keeping track of such things.  :-)
>
> um, this does not seem like a technology issue.  ie, the issue is not,
> "i need a list to keep track of things", but a management issue - "i
> need a process by which i can delegate things, so i only have to
> personally keep track of what is necessary".  there's an opportune
> [...]

(of course, if you feel a particular stake in seeing the features
considered, you can also keep track of it.  and, i hope i didn't come
off as preachy in my initial response - i sometimes get caught up in
trying to articulate something clearly, and forget that it may already
be sufficiently obvious to others...)
--
ken manheimer
ken.manheimer@gmail.com
http://myriadicity.net

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Marco Munari 17502.7162]

Richard Stallman wrote:

>These could be good features, but now is not the right time
>to add new features.

>Could you please suggest them again, a couple of months after Emacs 22
>is released?

Yes of course, I placed a trigger on the future annunce in info-gnu-emacs@ 

All the best,
MARco
-- 
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|sin(pi*t)|^[2e^(-(t-11.5)^2)+.5+e^(-(.6t-3.3)^2)])/(.5+t)+1  ; 0<t<14

emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Marco Munari 18034.23212]

Hi
Dear emacs developers,

I'm here again, to enlighten the beautiful logical instrument
that we use to create: emacs.

the following link contains my patch to:
- introduce fringe-inactive face and the code to handle it,
  the selected window results more hilighted, including the input line,
  when you press M-x or emacs decide to ask you something in the input line,
  you will see the current window(emacs terminology) less in evidence
  and the input line hilighted in the fringe space.
  Moreover  C-x o  (other-window)  make in evidence the current window
  not only in the mode-line below the buffer, but also in each side of
  the window in fringe space (using fringe xor fringe-inactive faces).
- introduce custom fringe-standard-bitmap-size (the default fringe
  bitmap wasted space, eg. in half fringe-mode the default bitmaps weren't
  appropriate), you can choose your preferred size for continued arrow etc..
  by M-x customize-variable fringe-standard-bitmap-size
- introduce login distinction for .authinfo file (without this patch only one
  login for each machine is permitted)
and other changements that I made.

http://www.allerta.it/pub/emacs/mar_emacs_cvs_20070615-subset.patch

All the best,
MARco
-- 
http://xref.mm.homeunix.org:8380/~u18034.23212/mail/enlighten_emacs,en
x(t),y(t) = th(3t-34.5)*e^[-(3t-34.5)^2]/2-4.3+e^(-1.8/t^2)/(.8*atg(t-
3)+2)(t-1.8)-.3th(5t-42.5),(1.4e^[-(3t-34.5)^2]+1-sgn[|t-8.5|-.5]*1.5*
|sin(pi*t)|^[2e^(-(t-11.5)^2)+.5+e^(-(.6t-3.3)^2)])/(.5+t)+1  ; 0<t<14
						http://www.allerta.it/

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Richard Stallman]

    the following link contains my patch to:
    - introduce fringe-inactive face and the code to handle it,

Could you describe in one line what this feature does?

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Marco Munari 18036.27614]

[mar]
>    the following link contains my patch to:
>    - introduce fringe-inactive face and the code to handle it,
...

You (Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>) wrote:

>Could you describe in one line what this feature does?


evidence active emacs-windows, by new low contrast fringe-inactive face.


Other features like
fringe-standard-bitmap-size to drawn redesigned and positioned fringe symbols


are described in my previous e-mail not in a line base.

All the best,
MARco
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http://xref.mm.homeunix.org:8380/~u18036.27614/mail/,
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3)+2)(t-1.8)-.3th(5t-42.5),(1.4e^[-(3t-34.5)^2]+1-sgn[|t-8.5|-.5]*1.5*
|sin(pi*t)|^[2e^(-(t-11.5)^2)+.5+e^(-(.6t-3.3)^2)])/(.5+t)+1  ; 0<t<14
						http://www.allerta.it/

Re: emacs enhancements: fringe, .authinfo, etc

[Richard Stallman]

    evidence active emacs-windows, by new low contrast fringe-inactive face.

That seems nice.

    fringe-standard-bitmap-size to drawn redesigned and positioned fringe symbols

Could you explain that?