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From: <christian.lynbech@tieto.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Jeff Clough <jeff@chaosphere.com>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: mailclient-send-it usage of browse-url
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:14:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ytqpochl9lpq.fsf@tieto.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwviq7um7xq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:23:20 +0300")

>>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

Stefan> The problem is that for most users configuring sendmail is difficult

This is true but it could be that there are ways of using sendmail where
one would be less reliant of its configuration.

This was the situation for me when trying to change to using the
sendmail client. The default value of `mail-specify-envelope-from' is
nil meaning that we rely on sendmail to generate the envelope and this
requires sendmail to be setup correctly which apparently isn't the
default on OSX. However, by setting the variable to true, emacs
generates the envelope and now mails are getting delivered since they
have a legitimate envelope which many mailservers wisely seem to
require.

The point I am trying ot make here (without being a great sendmail
expert) that it may be possible to excert enough external control over
sendmail to ensure delivery, at least for nodes directly connected to
the internet. If you are in a situation where you need to authenticate,
other approaches must be used.

The biggest problem with sendmail (at least on OSX) is that (as David
mentioned) it may fail silently. Sendmail will in a number of cases
happily put the mail into the queue and then fail to deliver it later.


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Christian Lynbech       | christian #\@ defun #\. dk
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Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual.
                                        - petonic@hal.com (Michael A. Petonic)




  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-15  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13 19:51 mailclient-send-it usage of browse-url Christian Lynbech
2010-04-13 22:06 ` David Reitter
2010-04-14  3:22   ` Christian Lynbech
2010-04-14 11:41     ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 13:07       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 13:25         ` David Reitter
2010-04-15  7:46           ` christian.lynbech
     [not found]             ` <C8D541C4-F87C-48F8-917C-5A4C6AC02203@mit.edu>
2010-04-15 16:49               ` chad
2010-04-14 13:36         ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 16:02           ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 16:35             ` Chad Brown
2010-04-14 16:41             ` Jeff Clough
2010-04-14 17:46               ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 23:19                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15  2:28                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-15  7:52                   ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-15 17:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-15 18:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-16  8:05                       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-17 19:55                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 19:58           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-14 14:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-15  8:14           ` christian.lynbech [this message]
2010-04-14 12:55     ` David Reitter
2010-04-14 13:20       ` christian.lynbech
2010-04-14 13:30         ` David Reitter
     [not found] <D6FDF877-2199-48E7-8B06-4E6325EDEAC9@mit.edu>
2010-04-15 16:49 ` Fwd: " chad
2010-04-15 17:15   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-15 17:22     ` Chad Brown
2010-04-15 19:00       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16  0:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-16  0:34       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16  1:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-16 11:13           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-16 12:49             ` Stefan Monnier

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