From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs reproducible builds part1 of 2 : eln Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:37:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8d01d73e-7ce1-4b3a-a25c-03b518a7e584@lsmod.de> <83jzofj70t.fsf@gnu.org> <83edemiklb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12242"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , bernhardout@lsmod.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Mattias =?utf-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 10 21:38:38 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rYu7S-0002yP-2s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:38:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYu6f-0004n4-JT; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:37:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYu6b-0004kp-9z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:37:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYu6X-00029W-Qy; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:37:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=7+b7jfPBnUmUTUIw9C/D9u9HGHhc3Vfi68U4Pt0DdBo=; b=mbkY+yi47pLNpdsA/02S 3DdQUk6O/JiDUhtShvYCc+ZblG1LbVDwcpPK4yqHAJywwe1+i77ezXxiHCaipNVUbdqfgQb/Fwsbw Bgf2QmFmNKiCOq1z2bHbtJqg6+yguEq6ZS2qGihNAOhIQ3eGIQD4gITAhZbzygUnSqBv4vtiAqs1k R5BFtduxtnGyh2RorFdsSI2huKjUPrPeUzbTtKYQI5MO0DqrPez3C3kcBsVEGLKkP+ya/NNp8u9ax +UCtkFeUY/Wp5/8iXwnovbczsjRpPBoRF3+3cuw4UhFGcH41zC+dbCFZXVfh6nVd5r8RkKXxiKkQP cB1M9xCH7a4JHw==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYu6U-00064M-UF; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:37:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:22 -0500") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316105 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> So, I'm not sure it explains the phenomenon you're seeing (I haven't >>> seen the rest of this thread yet). >> >> Interesting, I imagined the walk order is defined but my question is >> what about two hash table with the same content but created in two >> different sessions? > > Depends how they were filled: if they were filles by the same sequence > of operations, then they should have the same walk-order. > If not, then all bets are off. Okay that's good news, I'll investigate more tomorrow, the case is pretty well defined now so should be possible to understand exactly what is going on. Thanks Andrea