From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: igc: trying to chase a crash Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 03:52:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874j3v2lq3.fsf@telefonica.net> <864j3vi0d0.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfln1468.fsf@telefonica.net> <86zflngk0j.fsf@gnu.org> <87v7wb11hk.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5612"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: chad , =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 27 09:52:57 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tGDn5-0001EZ-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:52:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGDmd-0005pD-EH; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 03:52:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGDmb-0005op-Vi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 03:52:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGDma-0003Kt-2d; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 03:52:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=6M7jZCEB+Y+eHbukZ+CO50P8hnJfQYaqBq6J4fPM8nc=; b=RmnyGF+lAjD2x9YVsowe puEXEhOOAGgb5m/6YIhqcrPX0Cr9Ya0zJHjiUf1GBzbBPfsYrHLUizCBP3enTRs3k/1Xp09CuzUX/ m+Z6wWauJEYerv5lorNYcHps5JlyoteTgNHk4Gqs4anTaD4YVxvB4NoELVsj8zE3RsGK3GMlIyGIq +NqweNbeMDHI3fe54aNFSX89yVHHtTnM5SafVt9zVTCIhUlbqTWjcRg4e3YDEm6Gx/BJthG/MOEe9 hnN+pEOKUwKUdfQ46hjnLV/ARGTHCqAi7vT1cVWRSGTCsLaPpmgONPDF1JSTyZTTSH3ptWPRFZiIT DoX3CcFuL7KIRA==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tGDmL-0000R1-MS; Wed, 27 Nov 2024 03:52:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Wed, 27 Nov 2024 08:55:44 +0100") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325742 Archived-At: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > Andrea Corallo writes: > >>> I get the same feeling. Something is a bit odd. >> >> I don't find this too odd, I have my own ideas about the reasons for >> this difference. > > Care to share your thoughts? Sure if it's of interest: my idea of few things that helped a lot native comp in gaining traction at time: - publishing simple blog posts summarizing and explaining the progresses of the branch [1] - native-comp being a feature branch, this clarified that the goal was merging to master (IOW something which was probably likely to happen) and that the branch was trackable by users. That's why I suggested more than once this solution in the past. - publishing some positive performance numbers in order to explain/prove the soundness of the approach. That said, users were very interested and gave a lot of good feedbacks and bug reports (my impression more than for igc), but the number of developers involved I'm pretty sure was not higher than what igc got already. >> >>> But maybe that's even a good thing, >> >> I respectfully disagree. >> >> Andrea > > Just trying to always look at the bright side of life :-). :) [1]