From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:11:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs3dgxv8.fsf@gnu.org> <835y38qvlg.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkcx6eci.fsf@dataswamp.org> <8734y7p7sz.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83v8b3mcuj.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzrjvze8.fsf@gmx.net> <83r0lrm4gj.fsf@gnu.org> <83edhqu2bj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22286"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 19 18:12:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qtVd9-0005ZR-Gz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 18:12:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtVcU-00035a-7I; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:11:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtVcS-00035K-GS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:11:32 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtVcR-00077b-Hl; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:11:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=OeBy9YBYdiWGJY9fXs8/AHKf4PzBvJszNrDhSdYVJLo=; b=kBiCLllyvzJRFOC6hoki 5OSQDPkVeBRr90ns6Rq+J2UeoVfErwrmgZtgyE8c++N2X9McXPBuC4kHOea9TrMQndemVlLpPVPrd j80C/uue3CEom9jQ9Y0buLR9AtkhKU20/WBLJUulnQBFW3KOLxOF54H+wJHGDkR4eEVdlIdOcbL/Z DDjscU5ay/MfoIALvq9YugYIjal2B0QjEekJejVZ2Uh+W6KQyp3IOt8Tu2dqTJUfxpN79znkVUVVp XELSMuhhrJF2pFSfVTYkG4kh5OQcvYRs0kgVXE/69LRgyjCgbATSqDO+ugJABO0wsUqiblpzcfeqz 6bDwySF72pCyZg==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtVcR-0001WH-9Z; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:11:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83edhqu2bj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 19 Oct 2023 17:14:24 +0300") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311600 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo >> Cc: Stephen Berman , incal@dataswamp.org, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:44:51 -0400 >> >> Okay, I confirm that comp.el loads cl-lib, so any jit compilation >> triggered loads that. > > This is OK, not a problem. > >> OTOH one thing we could do, if that's important, is to split the code >> that only drives the async compilation (that actually happens in a >> subprocess) so we don't load cl-lib in the Emacs the user is actually >> using. This should not be that hard (optimism mode on). > > I don't see the need, but I will not object if you want to make such > changes. Okay I'll think about it, might be a positive change even leaving aside the cl-lib discussion. Thanks Andrea