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From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
To: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Inferred function types in the *Help* buffer
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 09:34:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yp1mt1jmhkz.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B3F717B8-A234-4C6A-BB35-B633CFE3854D@gmail.com> ("Mattias Engdegård"'s message of "Thu, 1 Jun 2023 15:06:24 +0200")

Mattias Engdegård <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com> writes:

> 1 juni 2023 kl. 13.50 skrev Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>:
>
>> if something will prove not to
>> be correct we'll just fix it as we do for everything else.
>
> I think the general idea is fine. What I meant was that some type
> specifications can be more of a hindrance than help, in the same way
> that we in some docstrings prefer to override the automatically
> generated argument signature -- for better precision, or to avoid
> confusing the user with technicalities or obsolete arguments.

Are you suggesting we need some kind of override method for this?

> There may also be a problem of inaccuracy, and here is a little
> anecdote. I needed a table of boolean functions that only return nil
> or t for the byte-compiler, so I tried to use
> comp-known-type-specifiers.
>
> Either I misunderstood what a return value of `boolean` means, or that
> list is riddled with errors. The following functions are specified to
> return boolean in comp-known-type-specifiers but actually may return
> other values as well:
>
>   proper-list-p
>   buffer-modified-p
>   coordinates-in-window-p
>   custom-variable-p
>   file-locked-p
>   file-symlink-p
>   frame-visible-p
>   framep
>
> and, since we have no guarantees about what file handlers actually return,
>
>   file-directory-p
>   file-exists-p
>   file-newer-than-file-p
>   file-readable-p
>   file-writable-p

Again, if you've found these to be incorrect that's a bug we already
have in the code in use.  They had to be reported/looked into since
probably the time we noticed this inchoerence for the first time.

Best Regards

  Andrea



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-23 16:44 Inferred function types in the *Help* buffer Andrea Corallo
2023-05-24 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-24 12:19   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-05-30 16:46     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-05-30 18:14       ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-05-30 18:48         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-05-31 12:19           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-05-31 14:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 11:28             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-01 11:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 11:36                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-01 11:54                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-06-01 11:50               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-06-01 13:06                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-01 13:34                   ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2023-06-01 14:50                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-01 15:10                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-06-01 17:53                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-06-01 19:13                           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-06-01 14:09                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-05-31 13:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  8:42         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-06-01  8:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-05-23 16:47 Payas Relekar
2023-05-23 18:51 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-05-24 12:20 ` Andrea Corallo

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