From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 05:04:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83fs3dgxv8.fsf@gnu.org> <835y38qvlg.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkcx6eci.fsf@dataswamp.org> <8734y7p7sz.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83v8b3mcuj.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzrjvze8.fsf@gmx.net> <83r0lrm4gj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19898"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Stephen Berman , incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 19 11:05:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qtOy5-0004u6-QU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 11:05:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtOxO-0003av-4r; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 05:04:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtOxF-0003aV-VP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 05:04:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtOxA-00008o-IV; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 05:04:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=oRfHaoDpI3kv4DDLeyTQ64hV4BahTyx1WY/sAJbf4mc=; b=KfKnMD7CACUCt6oOuxua G3uTsiwC1kv9ulVyjyvZt+QjcBny7PNt2jc0TpHtmuW0Bd/vN0e5Y70KD4zJK7dKZAcrH1SEFxQRh O7ljZliRPHDTrjYEC3zji/00jba+foMrMZgpLBwOcVF+Cdd+58f2Oo7pzohh2deJJFobqe8+SwGuF BexC/g9nhrJZpZDBHcl9rkpg3gdypdVL3al92XakItTkExXBUIMQM31IB3h5sk7Ou2Yr8QVliLgNn culNKMBSfa6smyRq9LptCMfCKVIiC7Ml/C/Tb9ic4WdDUXa4zaHB71V5Nc4tophf4iILvMBDKgOfM 1yKgtvF8y/x4Cw==; Original-Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qtOx8-0001Sn-Oh; Thu, 19 Oct 2023 05:04:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83r0lrm4gj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:55:24 +0300") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311583 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stephen Berman >> Cc: Emanuel Berg , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 09:34:39 +0200 >> >> On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 07:54:12 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> > (featurep 'cl-lib) => nil >> > >> > both in GUI and TTY (i.e. -nw) sessions. >> >> I also get this in a freshly updated build from master both with -Q and >> with -Q -nw. In a freshly updated build from emacs-29 I also get it >> with -Q -nw, but with just -Q (i.e. the GUI) it returns `t', and >> evaluating `features' returns (time-date subr-x cl-loaddefs cl-lib >> rmc...). And in a GUI build from master from October 8, (featurep >> 'cl-lib) returns `t' and features returns (time-date subr-x cl-loaddefs >> cl-lib rmc...). > > Please try figuring out what loads cl-lib in your case, as I cannot > reproduce this with the latest emacs-29 branch. Maybe the native compiler as it was triggered for some native compilation? Andrea