From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and No Gnus Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:10:38 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: References: <87eiqinpvi.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8763bu59hc.fsf@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253002302 6305 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2009 08:11:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 15 10:11:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MnT8Q-0004bU-8T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:11:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34057 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnT8P-0005x6-KD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnT8K-0005x1-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MnT8G-0005wf-QA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33683 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MnT8G-0005wc-MY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:56026) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MnT8F-0002sA-Vp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1MnT88-0004Ve-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:11:16 +0200 Original-Received: from 217.144.235.5 ([217.144.235.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:11:16 +0200 Original-Received: from sb by 217.144.235.5 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:11:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.144.235.5 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pbLDYHaZhH30OTJodVkK3SJHoKo= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115341 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69004 Archived-At: >>>>> Teemu Likonen : > On 2009-09-08 11:15 (+0900), Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Polls of corporate Emacs users (the last one I've seen was about >> October 2007) showed that about 1% use Emacs 18, about 10% use Emacs >> 19 or Lucid 19, about 20% using Emacs 20 or XEmacs 20. I forget what >> current Emacs was at that time, but by extrapolating I suspect there >> are indeed a lot of people still using Emacs 21 out there today. > Yes, Emacs 21 is still used. This is what Debian popularity contest > graph shows: > http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=emacs22-bin-common%2Cemacs23-bin-common%2Cemacs21-bin-common%2Cxemacs21-mule&show_vote=on&want_legend=on&from_date=&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1 > Debian Sid (the unstable development branch) does not have Emacs 21 > anymore so I guess it will be dropped from next Debian release. Emacs 21 is the default emacs installed on RHEL4 machines, and there are quite a few of them around, and they will probably be around for quite a while.