From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why do we spend time on Emacs on Guile? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:02:43 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5xk7mrywnt.fsf_-_@kfs2.cua.dk> <200208170450.g7H4oRf08568@wijiji.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030086172 21831 127.0.0.1 (23 Aug 2002 07:02:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: storm@cua.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org, gerd.moellmann@t-online.de Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17i8T5-0005g0-00 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:02:51 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17i8wK-0002q6-00 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:33:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17i8UG-0002KA-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17i8T2-0002Iq-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:02:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17i8T0-0002Ie-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:02:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([134.2.12.5]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17i8T0-0002IR-00; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 03:02:46 -0400 Original-Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams [134.2.12.50]) by mx1.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3220A4AB; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:02:44 +0200 (MST) Original-Received: from sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g7N72hxs060366; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:02:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sperber@sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de) Original-Received: (from sperber@localhost) by sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g7N72hNM060365; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:02:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sperber) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Sam Steingold's message of "17 Aug 2002 09:02:18 -0400") Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.5 (broccoli, i386-unknown-freebsd4.6) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6782 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6782 >>>>> "Sam" == Sam Steingold writes: >> * In message <200208170450.g7H4oRf08568@wijiji.santafe.edu> >> * On the subject of "Re: Why do we spend time on Emacs on Guile?" >> * Sent on Fri, 16 Aug 2002 22:50:27 -0600 (MDT) >> * Honorable Richard Stallman writes: Sam> > >> Guile is the standard extensibility package of the GNU Project, All >> GNU packages that include an interpreter for extensibility are >> supposed to use Guile. It is inconsistent for Emacs not to support >> Guile. Sam> Supporting Guile via compilation into Common Lisp is _much_ easier. Sam> I.e., re-hosting Emacs on CLISP and making CLISP able to load Emacs Sam> Lisp (done already) and Guile (should be very easy). Jonathan Rees's Pseudoscheme did this many years ago, but the support sure wasn't complete. I'd also be surprise if this were "very" easy: you at least need to take care of hygienic macros (possible) and CALL-WITH-CURRENT-CONTINUATION (ermh, ..., difficult). -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla