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From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: akrl@sdf.org, corwin@bru.st, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : emacs-28 windows binaries available from alpha
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 17:49:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xm46tudduulg.fsf@duenenhof-wilhelm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pmo11wij.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 05 Feb 2022 11:40:52 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>
>> Cc: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,  Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>,
>>   corwin@bru.st,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 10:22:26 +0100
>> 
>> On a Windows system WITH ligccjit I could load Drew's .elc file without
>> an error.
>> 
>> Then I added his .el file in the same folder and reloaded the .elc file
>> (with load-file).  I was expecting that Emacs would create a respective
>> .eln file in this situation.  But it didn't.
>
> Please repeat this experiment in a fresh Emacs session, started
> when the .el file is already available...
>
>>   Loading d:/tmp/Corwin/strings.elc (compiled; note, source file is
>>   newer)...done
>
> ...and make sure the .elc file is newer, not older, than the .el file.

"Touched" and loaded strings.elc.

  -rw-r--r-- 1 uidg1626 Domain Users 34051 Feb  5 10:04 strings.el
  -rw-r--r-- 1 uidg1626 Domain Users 22756 Feb  5 16:54 strings.elc

But it seems that string.el wasn't compiled, I can't see it in
*Asysnc-native-compile-log* neither in eln-cache!?

>> Does this mean that Emacs - by default - is only natively compiling .el
>> files which are from Emacs' tree and (M)elpa packages?
>
> No.  Emacs should natively compile any .el file when its .elc file is
> loaded, provided that (a) the .el file can be found, and (b) the .el
> file is older than the .elc file.

Might it work when the .el files are in PATH or in Emacs' tree?

>> When (load-file)ing the .el file then Emacs compiled the cl.el library.

>>   *Asyn-native-compoile-log* Compiling
>>   d:/tmp/Corwin/2022-02-04/share/emacs/28.0.91/lisp/obsolete/cl.el...
>> 
>>   *Messages* Loading d:/tmp/Corwin/strings.el (source)...
>>   d:/tmp/Corwin/strings.el: Warning: ‘psetq’ is an obsolete alias (as of
>>   27.1); use ‘cl-psetq’ instead.
>
> As expected.  When you load a file with an explicit .el extension,
> Emacs will not natively compile that file -- this is a feature.

Good to know, thank you

--
        Dieter



  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-05 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-04 18:54 emacs-28 windows binaries available from alpha Corwin Brust
2022-02-04 22:08 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-04 22:12   ` Drew Adams
2022-02-04 23:10     ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-05  1:28       ` Drew Adams
2022-02-05  4:35         ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-05  7:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05  8:48             ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-05  9:15               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 18:16           ` Drew Adams
2022-02-05  7:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05  9:22       ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-05  9:40         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 16:49           ` H. Dieter Wilhelm [this message]
2022-02-05 17:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 19:25               ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-05 19:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 21:11                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-05 22:56                     ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-06  0:10                       ` Drew Adams
2022-02-06  8:22                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  8:51                           ` Drew Adams
2022-02-06  9:25                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 17:08                               ` Drew Adams
2022-02-06 17:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  8:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 10:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06  3:11         ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-06  6:57           ` Drew Adams
2022-02-06  9:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 17:07               ` Drew Adams
2022-02-09 19:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09 21:03           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-10  5:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-10  8:56               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-10 12:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-10 13:36                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-10 17:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-10 18:34                       ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-11  8:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-11  9:16                           ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-11  9:21                             ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-11 11:31                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-11 14:16                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-11 14:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-11 14:38                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-11 11:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-11 14:18                               ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-11 14:35                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-11 14:44                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-11 15:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14 10:25                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2022-02-10 22:50                     ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-06  0:33     ` Corwin Brust

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