From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:56:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87ill8paw7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83o7uzivey.fsf@gnu.org> <3ac9d2b9632f75018327a1bcde0c373f152c404a.camel@gmail.com> <835ygob7ja.fsf@gnu.org> <834jw7a2ym.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfjp5t3d.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19872"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Liliana Marie Prikler , Eli Zaretskii , rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 15 17:57:38 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ojjXe-0004yz-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 17:57:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54482 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojjXc-0005xM-R3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33204) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojjWr-00058a-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:50320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ojjWp-000181-Im; Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:56:48 -0400 Original-Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 29FFuio6017254 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:56:44 GMT In-Reply-To: <87sfjp5t3d.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:33:42 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297791 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > >> The problem is that I can't meaningfully choose the "I don't want JIT >> for stuff I haven't AOT'd" option, especially not combined with "but I >> do want to load what I have AOT'd". > > I haven't followed the Guix part of this thread in detail, but I thought > I'd just note that Emacs 29 now has the > `inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' variable and and > `EMACS_INHIBIT_AUTOMATIC_NATIVE_COMPILATION' environment variables, so > this is implemented. I thought this change was just into master "for discussion", are we already suggesting users to integrate it in their infrastructures? BTW AFAIU this usecase was already supported in 28 using `native-comp-deferred-compilation'.