From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Layers/Modules (was none) Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 07:32:06 +0000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Andrea Corallo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13625"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ag Ibragimov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 06 09:32:56 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEpAV-0003Rf-I1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:32:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35592 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEpAR-0002Ly-Sl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 03:32:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEp9o-0001vo-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 03:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:50689) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEp9m-00012K-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 03:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mab (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 0867W6Ok014956; Sun, 6 Sep 2020 07:32:06 GMT In-Reply-To: (Ag Ibragimov's message of "Sun, 06 Sep 2020 00:04:28 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/06 02:24:26 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254557 Archived-At: Ag Ibragimov writes: > Spacemacs (community-driven Emacs distribution/config) has a feature > called Layers, Doom-Emacs (another community-driven Emacs config) has > a similar feature (I think they are called Modules). > > A Layer is a bundle of [related] Emacs packages that work together and > very often tightly integrate (with one another) to provide a > comprehensive set of features to achieve specific goals. For example, > there are many language-specific Spacemacs layers: Python, Lua, > Haskell, etc. > For example, the Python layer includes basic Python-related packages and sets defaults for Flycheck, Company, etc. > There also layers for tools like Docker or layers for version-control, et al. > > So my question is: Has anyone ever thought about designing a sort of > standardized module system? It would be great if we could have a > unified model for creating such bundles. > Wouldn't be nice if for example, instead of discovering, installing > and configuring a bunch of related packages, an Emacs user would say: > "install LaTeX module" and then "customize "LaTeX module", etc. > > Emacs ecosystem is growing. There are hundreds (maybe more) packages; > standardizing a system that would allow the "plug-n-play" experience > would be very nice. Otherwise, everyone would continue solving same > problems in their own, unique ways, increasing entropy towards the > "Lisp curse." How is this conceptually different from a package that depends on other packages? Andrea