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From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
To: arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: On elisp running native
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:31:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xjfk16a5c30.fsf@sdf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1P194MB0429F3AF7407F4318D67FA5196200@VI1P194MB0429.EURP194.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (arthur miller's message of "Thu, 2 Jan 2020 07:55:27 +0000")

arthur miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:

> A question:
> Would it be possible to lump all compiled functions into one .so file per
> package?
> I have tested your branch after update2, haven't had time to test after
> the last update.

Thanks for the feedback, is cool to know that somebody reproduced.

> I didn't see any speedup on load time, either with -Q
> flag, or when I loaded my init files and packages. I have complied all
> elpa packages to eln, including my custom lisp and init file (whatever was
> compilable).
> I guess since there is one .eln per .el file, there is lots of disk
> access. Same for byte code and pure lisp. Maybe the init time is dominated
> by file access, rather then the processing those files.
> Could it maybe be possible to create one .so per package si that all
> functions from corresponding eln files is that .so? It could drastically
> reduce number of file access at load time. I don't know if it is
> possible. 

I have no evidence that using eln is faster or slower than elc in terms
of load time.  What you suggest is easily possible from the compiler
point of view but how should it behave exactly? We probably would need
some notion of package then?

Anyway I'd like to point out that:

  - Mosts are likely to be compiling at speed 0 for now, and this
    translate into considerably bigger elns (not sure this has an
    impact).

  - We should profile the load process first to understand were we spend
    time.  But I'm not sure we are at this stage of refinement.

Andrea

-- 
akrl@sdf.org



  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-02 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 210+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-28  6:54 On elisp running native Andrea Corallo
2019-11-28 11:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-28 14:07   ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-28 12:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-28 20:15   ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29  6:03     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2019-11-28 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-28 17:28   ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-28 21:06     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-28 22:52       ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29  0:20       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2019-11-29 14:59       ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29 15:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 15:30           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-01 10:34             ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-01 15:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 16:43           ` Andrea Corallo
2019-11-29 19:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 21:18               ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-08 20:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-26 13:05   ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-26 17:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-26 18:14       ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-26 20:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-26 22:10           ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27  9:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-27 10:46               ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27 14:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28  1:17               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-28  7:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28  8:17                 ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-29  0:08                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-29  9:29                     ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 13:07               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-28 13:28                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 19:56                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-12-29 19:59                 ` chad
2019-12-30  8:17                   ` arthur miller
2019-12-30 14:09                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-30 15:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-30 22:03                       ` arthur miller
2019-12-31  3:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-30 13:56                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-30 14:04                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-30  8:47                 ` Achim Gratz
2019-12-27 15:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-27 21:02               ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27 22:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-28  8:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28  8:56                   ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 10:06                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 11:57                       ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 13:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 14:35                           ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 18:38                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-28 22:13                               ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31  9:55                               ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31 15:49                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-24 23:21                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-25  6:14                         ` yyoncho
2020-02-25  7:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-25 12:59                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-28  4:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-28  8:26                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-28  9:23                                   ` yyoncho
2020-04-26 12:00                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-27  4:41                             ` yyoncho
2019-12-26 20:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-26 20:58       ` dick.r.chiang
2019-12-26 21:57       ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-27  8:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-27 10:49           ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-28 16:10           ` dick.r.chiang
2019-12-28 17:31             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-31 10:24           ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31 15:51             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-31 16:21               ` Andrea Corallo
2019-12-31 16:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-31 22:15                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-01-01 12:41                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-01 15:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-01 18:42                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-02  7:55                         ` arthur miller
2020-01-02 11:31                           ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2020-01-02 13:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04 18:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-05  1:33                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-01-05  4:51                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-05  5:18                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-01-05  6:36                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-02 13:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-04 18:14                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-01-05 10:00                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-02 11:47                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-02 16:52                         ` Ergus
2020-01-02 17:55                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-11 14:10                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-04 11:28                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-04 15:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-04 18:39                               ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-04 18:58                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-02-04 19:00                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-02-04 20:30                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-05 10:15                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-05 14:24                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-02-15  9:29                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-16 18:18                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-02-22 10:15                                             ` On elisp running native - deferred compilation Andrea Corallo
2020-02-22 14:19                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-04 19:34                                             ` On elisp running native Andrea Corallo
2020-03-04 20:21                                               ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-04 22:16                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-05 19:33                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-06 21:44                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-07  9:09                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-07  9:33                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-07  9:41                                                           ` Michael Albinus
     [not found]                                                             ` <xjf36akjx8e.fsf@sdf.org>
     [not found]                                                               ` <87y2sca2ex.fsf@gmx.de>
     [not found]                                                                 ` <xjfy2scigxn.fsf@sdf.org>
     [not found]                                                                   ` <xjftv30hytf.fsf@sdf.org>
2020-03-07 17:57                                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-07 18:49                                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-07 18:54                                                                         ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-07 19:19                                                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-08 15:03                                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-08 20:16                                                                               ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-08 20:55                                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-08 21:09                                                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-08 21:29                                                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-08 21:32                                                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-08 21:37                                                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-05 10:54                                               ` Adam Porter
2020-03-05 12:43                                                 ` Gong-Yi Liao 廖宮毅
2020-03-05 13:27                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-08 14:37                                                     ` Gong-Yi Liao 廖宮毅
2020-03-08 15:13                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-15 19:00                                                     ` Gong-Yi Liao 廖宮毅
2020-03-15 20:00                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-05 13:19                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-05 14:42                                                   ` Adam Porter
2020-03-05 19:46                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-06 21:15                                                   ` Adam Porter
2020-03-06 21:23                                                     ` Adam Porter
2020-03-06 21:52                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-11 22:04                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-12 17:10                                                   ` Adam Porter
2020-03-12 17:34                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-12 18:03                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-23 21:36                                               ` On elisp running native - Update7 Andrea Corallo
2020-03-24  2:59                                                 ` Gong-Yi Liao 廖宮毅
2020-03-24  8:44                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-16 15:24                                                 ` On elisp running native - Update 8 Andrea Corallo
2020-05-16 16:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 20:44                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-16 18:22                                                   ` Gregor Zattler
2020-05-16 19:59                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-17  5:26                                                       ` Gregor Zattler
2020-06-14 13:23                                                   ` On elisp running native - Update 9 Andrea Corallo
2020-06-14 17:23                                                     ` arthur miller
2020-06-15  5:04                                                     ` Gong-Yi Liao 廖宮毅
2020-06-15  7:41                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-06-17 23:54                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-18  6:55                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-07-16 20:00                                                     ` On elisp running native - Update 10 Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-17 18:43                                                       ` On elisp running native - Update 11 Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-18  5:13                                                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-08-18  8:17                                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-26 10:35                                                         ` On elisp running native - Update 12 Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-26 14:29                                                           ` T.V Raman
2020-09-26 14:56                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-26 15:07                                                               ` T.V Raman
2020-09-28 12:22                                                                 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-09-28 14:03                                                                   ` T.V Raman
2020-09-27 10:35                                                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-27 18:28                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-27 18:30                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 20:39                                                                 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-27 22:10                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-28  6:06                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 10:28                                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-28 10:45                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-28 11:02                                                                       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-27 20:37                                                               ` T.V Raman
2020-09-28 14:10                                                           ` Yuan Fu
2020-09-28 14:51                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-28 15:20                                                               ` Yuan Fu
2020-09-28 15:32                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-28 15:19                                                           ` Caio Henrique
2020-09-28 15:39                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-28 16:12                                                               ` Caio Henrique
2020-09-28 17:21                                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-01 18:37                                                           ` On elisp running native - Update 13 Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-01 20:07                                                             ` tomas
2020-01-01 15:19                     ` On elisp running native Óscar Fuentes
2020-01-01 18:48                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-01-01 14:59             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-15 14:21 ` Spenser Truex
2020-03-15 20:10   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-18 14:58     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-03-18 17:14       ` Andrea Corallo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-01-02 21:47 arthur miller
2020-03-06 13:28 Zhu Zihao
2020-03-06 17:51 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-09 17:55   ` Zhu Zihao
2020-03-09 18:52     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-09 19:14       ` Zhu Zihao
2020-03-09 19:41         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-09 21:06         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-09 19:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-09 19:42         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-05 21:48         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-10 16:15   ` Zhu Zihao
2020-03-10 17:46     ` Andrea Corallo

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