From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:34:11 +0000 Message-ID: References: <86tv2h2vww.fsf@gmail.com> <20200322123818.GB32470@ACM> <87eetk5swm.fsf@gnu.org> <20200326193128.GC14092@ACM> <86d08y4zsx.fsf@gmail.com> <83sghs7qdz.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7y63sjj.fsf@gnu.org> <834ku43c61.fsf@gnu.org> <83a73w1l8y.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo70z8tc.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="60156"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: acm@muc.de, rrandresf@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 31 20:35:29 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLjV-000FUn-1G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 20:35:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42850 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLjT-0006mj-UW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:35:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60601) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLiP-0005hv-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:34:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLiN-00079C-Gu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:34:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.20]:60150) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJLiJ-000766-IF; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 14:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 02VIYBBt021077 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:34:11 GMT Original-Received: (from akrl@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 02VIYBSr021540; Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:34:11 GMT In-Reply-To: <83wo70z8tc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 31 Mar 2020 21:19:11 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 205.166.94.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246144 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, rrandresf@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 18:00:25 +0000 >> >> >> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/elisp-benchmarks.html ? >> > >> > (Any idea why this isn't in the ELPA repository?) >> >> What do you mean? I think it is (as external package tho). > > When I checkout the ELPA repository, I don't seem to have it. Or did > I miss something? Is in the 'externals/elisp-benchmarks' branch. The ELPA readme explain this (line 231). >> > This might be a beginning, but the issue at hand is not to benchmark >> > Emacs Lisp programs, it is to benchmark Emacs commands, so we could >> > make sure we don't have speed regressions. >> >> Yes is just a start. I think everything is in Emacs core can be >> classified as elisp implementation, I would not know where to draw a >> line otherwise. > > I said "commands", and it wasn't an accident. Those are user-visible > units, so IMO we should start by having benchmarks for frequent > commands. What I'm saying is that I agree with you and I think these new benchmarks should go in the 'elisp-benchmarks' package too. Perhaps we can classify these but I think is good to have one suite collecting all benchmarks. Andrea -- akrl@sdf.org