From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 13:18:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <8735c6b0wo.fsf@gnus.org> <87y1ty9lha.fsf@gnus.org> <87lepym6ok.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <877d1i9h7k.fsf@gnus.org> <83edvqyr3q.fsf@gnu.org> <874jwl8e4p.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5359"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , rlb@defaultvalue.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 15:27:07 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1og4QV-0001CG-L7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 15:27:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58692 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og4QU-0008J1-Ed for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 09:27:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37470) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og4Id-0004Jn-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 09:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:53832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og4Ic-0000XE-64; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 09:18:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 295DIsfO002413 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 5 Oct 2022 13:18:55 GMT In-Reply-To: <874jwl8e4p.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 03 Oct 2022 11:12:22 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296961 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> If we want to consider providing (yet another) user option for >> disabling native compilation, then we should: > > I asked what the user option to disable native compilation was, but > didn't get an answer, and here you say "(yet another)", so... what is > the current user option to disable native compilation? Sorry for being late: `native-comp-deferred-compilation' and `load-no-native'. >> . understand why and in which situations they may need it > > Doing repeatable testing is one obvious situation. I think the two previously mentioned knobs should be sufficient for repeatable testing no? Also repeatable testing are most likely executed in batch mode and... ...surprise surprise deferred compilation is *already* *disabled* in this mode!! I've the impression no one mentioned this small detail in this huge thread, but still we have installed changes to disable a feature for debian pkg installation that is in fact already disabled :( :( Best Regards Andrea