From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] [WIP] Port feature/native-comp to Windows. Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 18:37:03 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5eb5b953.1c69fb81.a67ce.a764@mx.google.com> <83lfm1hc91.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo5lds87.fsf@gnu.org> <83lflzd8es.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftc7d4zu.fsf@gnu.org> <83blmvd2if.fsf@gnu.org> <833686d08r.fsf@gnu.org> <83eerqbg22.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="110265"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: Nicolas =?utf-8?Q?B=C3=A9rtolo?= , Eli Zaretskii , Emacs developers To: Fabrice Popineau Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 20:37:52 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDJH-000Sa9-N0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 20:37:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37586 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDJG-00016k-NR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:37:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44990) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDIb-0008A9-ES for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:37:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.20]:64063) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDIa-0005Dv-7e; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:37:09 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 04BIb39h026004 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 11 May 2020 18:37:03 GMT Original-Received: (from akrl@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 04BIb3oo015905; Mon, 11 May 2020 18:37:03 GMT In-Reply-To: (Fabrice Popineau's message of "Mon, 11 May 2020 20:19:43 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.20; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/11 12:43:44 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249859 Archived-At: Fabrice Popineau writes: > > I guess I am not alone reading this and thinking:=C2=A0 > well, Common Lisp provides an embedded compiler even at runtime for > years. > (Sorry but could not resist) > I'm not sure what you mean with "Common Lisp", but for instance ECL (that is C toolchain based) AFAIK on Windows falls back to bytecode by default (I guess this is similar to the Emacs one). CLISP is even only byte-compiled. That said to be clear: with the native compiler we are in full bring-up phase. The fact that I try to maintain the branch always functional and people are already using it does no mean is finished. I don't think this is the moment to address this, especially given we are not taking any design decision that goes against this option. Andrea --=20 akrl@sdf.org