From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proper namespaces in Elisp Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 08:12:39 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87ftcee7td.fsf@tromey.com> <87pnbgzdmx.fsf@tromey.com> <1225997b-648a-068d-7f6b-e1575477a0d0@dancol.org> <875zd62qy7.fsf@t510.orion.oneofus.la> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="108082"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: Daniel Colascione , Tom Tromey , =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 09 10:13:22 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jXKbq-000S1b-6D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 10:13:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40824 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXKbo-0006dI-O5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 04:13:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXKbE-0005my-Cq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 04:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.20]:54826) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXKbC-0003bx-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 04:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 0498CdSZ024546 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Sat, 9 May 2020 08:12:39 GMT Original-Received: (from akrl@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) id 0498CdEI031830; Sat, 9 May 2020 08:12:39 GMT In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 08 May 2020 19:23:29 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.20; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/09 04:05:27 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249372 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I'm learning also here that Scheme works on bindings too, good to be >> ignorant!! :) > > Note that Scheme doesn't have `symbol-value`, `set`, nor does it have > symbol properties. That makes things quite a bit easier (basically, > symbols and variables are completely decoupled in Scheme, whereas in > Elisp they are siamese brethren). I see. I guess properties should have a dedicated binding in my proto (as for function and value has). -- akrl@sdf.org