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From: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A prototype for a binding based approach to proper namespaces
Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 17:15:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xjf7dxlkp1t.fsf@sdf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1jXSXg-0000Qt-FY@dancol.org> (Daniel Colascione's message of "Sat, 09 May 2020 09:41:35 -0700")

Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> writes:

> On May 9, 2020 9:39:18 AM Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> wrote:
>
>> Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> writes:
>>
>>>> I agree with you in principle, but the fact that a pointer chase more is
>>>> negative for performance in a measurable way or not for this case should
>>>> be verified with a measure
>>>
>>> Death by a thousand cuts is something that happens to lots of real
>>> world programs. I don't want to introduce unnecessary memory
>>> indirections or branches where simple and efficient alternatives are
>>> known to exist and where they're just as good as the inefficient
>>> option.
>>
>> Exactly because we are talking of real world programs I think it should
>> be measured :)
>>
>> I'll maybe have a run using the prototype (so it will prove some
>> usefulness) and report.
>
> No, not in this case. This is something that might appear to be fine
> in isolated tests or in modules that don't get a lot of use, but the
> more people use this thing, the worse it gets, right? I don't see any
> reason to *prefer* this approach to the zero cost one. Let's not be
> slow for no benefit.

If the alternative is the read time approach I think many people think
it has disadvantages.  Are proposing a third way?

-- 
akrl@sdf.org



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-09 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-08 20:47 A prototype for a binding based approach to proper namespaces Andrea Corallo
2020-05-08 23:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09  8:05   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 15:16     ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 15:50       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 15:56         ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 16:39           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 16:41             ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 17:15               ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2020-05-09 17:17                 ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-09 23:14                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 23:46                     ` João Távora
2020-05-09 23:29     ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-09 23:53       ` João Távora
2020-05-10  0:12         ` Daniel Colascione
2020-05-10  4:18         ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-10 15:24       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-10 17:46         ` Vladimir Sedach
2020-05-10 20:14           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09  7:38 ` Helmut Eller
2020-05-09  8:27   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09  8:50     ` Helmut Eller
2020-05-09 10:57       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-09 16:09   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 18:08     ` Helmut Eller
2020-05-09 18:55       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-09 22:52 ` Vladimir Sedach

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