From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New obsolete.el file for obsolete stuff? Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:24:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Andrea Corallo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4122"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 18 14:29:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k80js-0000xU-8Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 14:29:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53650 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k80jr-0005dc-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:29:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k80fA-0000Yv-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:24:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:60940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k80f7-00028F-Vp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 08:24:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mab (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 07ICOInN015139; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:24:18 GMT In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:10:03 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/18 07:19:39 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253938 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I was investigating some XEmacs compat code the other day and stumbled > across their library obsolete.el, which they used to put all their > obsolete aliases. > > You can find their library here: > > https://bitbucket.org/xemacs/xemacs/src/default/lisp/obsolete.el > > Its Commentary says: > > The obsoleteness support used to be scattered throughout various > source files. We put the stuff in one place to remove the junkiness > from other source files and to facilitate creating/updating things > like sysdep.el. > > I think this is a nice idea to basically move some cruft out of the way, > to where we don't need to see it. > > Could we do something similar for Emacs? I'm thinking that we don't > need to move all stuff at once, but if we create the file with a basic > structure, we could start using it little by little. Am I wrong or the trouble is that such a file would require all necessary dependencies for the functions moved into? If that's the case either only code with autoloaded or no dependency can be moved there or a massive number of requires would be needed. I'm not sure the solution is not very practical in this respect. Regards Andrea -- akrl@sdf.org