From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2022 12:43:39 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87bkqxf1ij.fsf@tethera.net> <8335c9dkyf.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu4odez7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qrrpkgx.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <834jwnbi6c.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtafnun5.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83sfk6ahty.fsf@gnu.org> <8735c6b0wo.fsf@gnus.org> <87y1ty9lha.fsf@gnus.org> <87lepym6ok.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <877d1i9h7k.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10448"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Rob Browning , Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , david@tethera.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 14:48:06 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1og3ok-0002Qt-At for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 14:48:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45544 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og3oi-0004hF-Mg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 08:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42648) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og3kZ-0002Qq-OS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 08:43:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:58009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1og3kX-0000bC-G8; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 08:43:47 -0400 Original-Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 295Chdee015752 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Wed, 5 Oct 2022 12:43:39 GMT In-Reply-To: <877d1i9h7k.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 02 Oct 2022 21:08:15 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296955 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Rob Browning writes: > >> At the top level, we wanted a way to avoid writing to HOME during >> packaging, testing, installs (in this case, it's the .eln files, now >> that we've enabled native compilation). >> >> That could be handled by some way to turn off native compilation, or by >> some way to comprehensively divert those writes to another location >> (e.g. temp dir). Either is fine, though we'd originally thought the >> former might make things a bit easier. > > Yeah, I think the former is both easier to implement and easier for > users. > > So I'm thinking of introducing a user option like > `native-compile-inhibit', which will make Emacs skip the native-comp > machinery when loading .elc files. IIUC this would just control `load-no-native' and `native-comp-deferred-compilation'? I think these two are doing what you suggest here no? Andrea