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From: Andrea Corallo via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opportunistic GC
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 15:52:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xjf1rcpy754.fsf@sdf.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOqdjBf+Ob8SxMDOHEfvrhDj7UwCNYUZy4CWuCLvSGm3DmvxNQ@mail.gmail.com> (Pip Cet's message of "Mon, 8 Mar 2021 15:04:32 +0000")

Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 2:01 PM Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> wrote:
>> Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 3:37 AM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> >> I've been running with the code below recently to try and see if
>> >> opportunistic GC can be worth the trouble.
>> >
>> > Just a random idea: What if we exploit the fact most people have more
>> > than one CPU core these days, garbage-collect in a separate fork()ed
>> > process, then do only the sweeping in the main process?
>>
>> It's an interesting concept, I thought about something similar in the
>> past but, I've two questions:
>>
>> Are we really sure that a non trivial process can long survive
>> or work as expected after being forked?
>
> I believe that, on all systems where bash works, we can expect fork()
> to behave.

I also expect fork will work, I'm more wondering about interaction with
sockets file descriptors or anything else in our codebase and/or in
libraries we have loaded.

I've read in the past this is an issue in practice in non trivial code
and that, because the typical use of fork () nowadays is just to run
afterward exec (), operating in the grey between the two was not really
a good idea.  But I don't have the reference now and if you say it works
I've no reasons not to trust you.

  Andrea



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-08 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-08  3:35 Opportunistic GC Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08  7:20 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08  8:26   ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08  9:02     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08  9:51       ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 10:44         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 11:37           ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 12:27             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 18:06               ` martin rudalics
2021-03-08 18:24                 ` Concurrent GC via fork (was: Opportunistic GC) Stefan Monnier
2021-03-09  8:10                   ` Concurrent GC via fork martin rudalics
2021-03-10 20:35                 ` Opportunistic GC Pip Cet
2021-03-08 11:38           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-08 12:55             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 14:06             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 14:49           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:02             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:39                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 16:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 16:35                     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 17:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 15:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 16:11                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 14:01   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 15:04     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 15:52       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2021-03-08 16:14         ` Philipp Stephani
2021-03-08 16:18           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-03-08 16:40             ` Philipp Stephani
2021-03-08 16:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 17:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-10 20:25             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10 20:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  7:55                 ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  8:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  9:03                     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  9:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11 10:11                         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11 11:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-09  6:22           ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-09  8:11             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10  5:52               ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-08 14:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 14:57     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 15:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-09 13:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-10 20:21         ` Pip Cet
2021-03-10 20:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-11  8:06             ` Pip Cet
2021-03-11  9:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-08 16:03   ` Concurrent GC via `fork` (was: Opportunistic GC) Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 16:25     ` Pip Cet
2021-03-08 17:37       ` Concurrent GC via `fork` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-08 19:21       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-10 17:18   ` Opportunistic GC Matt Armstrong
2021-03-10 19:38     ` Pip Cet
2022-07-05  1:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-05 13:49     ` T.V Raman

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