From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Corallo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:23:56 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87ill8paw7.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <83o7uzivey.fsf@gnu.org> <3ac9d2b9632f75018327a1bcde0c373f152c404a.camel@gmail.com> <835ygob7ja.fsf@gnu.org> <834jw7a2ym.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfjp5t3d.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii , rlb@defaultvalue.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Liliana Marie Prikler Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 09:35:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okKeR-0007cb-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 09:35:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59336 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okKeQ-0007Bf-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okKTl-0000dk-20 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:24:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:65501) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okKTf-0000NS-4o; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 03:24:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ma.sdf.org (ma.sdf.org [205.166.94.33]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 29H7NuCn005408 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:23:56 GMT In-Reply-To: (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Sat, 15 Oct 2022 18:24:59 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.24; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=mx.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297930 Archived-At: Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Samstag, dem 15.10.2022 um 15:56 +0000 schrieb Andrea Corallo: >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >>=20 >> > Liliana Marie Prikler writes: >> >=20 >> > > The problem is that I can't meaningfully choose the "I don't want >> > > JIT >> > > for stuff I haven't AOT'd" option, especially not combined with >> > > "but I >> > > do want to load what I have AOT'd". >> >=20 >> > I haven't followed the Guix part of this thread in detail, but I >> > thought >> > I'd just note that Emacs 29 now has the >> > `inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' variable and and >> > `EMACS_INHIBIT_AUTOMATIC_NATIVE_COMPILATION' environment variables, >> > so >> > this is implemented. >>=20 >> I thought this change was just into master "for discussion", are we >> already suggesting users to integrate it in their infrastructures?=C2=A0 >> BTW AFAIU this usecase was already supported in 28 using >> `native-comp-deferred-compilation'. > The deferred-compilation switch still ends up writing to $HOME, which > the new inhibit one doesn't. I think Eli explained more than once how to avoid that also without using the new switch. Andrea