From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: visual-line-mode and line wrapping Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 06:10:41 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274764255 27407 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2010 05:10:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 05:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 25 07:10:53 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGmPk-00062d-QS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 May 2010 07:10:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36602 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGmPj-00029T-VK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 May 2010 01:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56948 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OGmPd-00028M-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2010 01:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGmPb-00006S-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2010 01:10:45 -0400 Original-Received: from ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.132]:55244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OGmPb-00006L-O5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2010 01:10:43 -0400 X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: not scanned X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Original-Received: from smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.95.72]:58027) by ppsw-32.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.158]:587) with esmtpsa (LOGIN:sl392) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) id 1OGmPa-0007fk-Ab (Exim 4.70) (return-path ); Tue, 25 May 2010 06:10:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 24 May 2010 16:26:44 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125225 Archived-At: On 2010-05-24 21:26 +0100, Stefan Monnier wrote: > You're preaching to the choir here (why do you think we have an "80 > columns max" limit on C and Elisp code?). But some people have been > using >=1600 horizontal pixels for more than 10 years and that's not > been a problem. The real problem is not that screens are getting > larger, but that people don't have to pay real money for that > real-estate any more, so they don't care about using it efficiently, > and they end up suffering from their sloppiness. I have little of this in mind when proposing this feature. It is more about if a long document has to be written with each paragraph in one single line, how to make the editing slightly more tolerable when one chooses to use visual-line-mode. Think of using emacs as a poor word processor if you like. Anyway, let's move on, let's forget about this. Leo