From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Defaulting to fancy diary display Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:36:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200909031802.n83I2i75021568@emr.cs.iit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252002984 14615 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2009 18:36:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ed Reingold Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 03 20:36:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MjHAO-0005S8-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:36:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40190 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjHAN-0005tT-O1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:36:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjHAI-0005tE-Ok for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjHAD-0005t2-2s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53834 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjHAC-0005sz-U5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from ppsw-6.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.136]:37383) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MjHAA-0005VW-K0; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:36:02 -0400 X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: not scanned X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Original-Received: from smaug.linux.pwf.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.95.72]:51983) by ppsw-6.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.156]:587) with esmtpsa (LOGIN:sl392) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) id 1MjHA8-0002bd-Lj (Exim 4.70) (return-path ); Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:36:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200909031802.n83I2i75021568@emr.cs.iit.edu> (Ed Reingold's message of "Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:02:44 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115010 Archived-At: On 2009-09-03 19:02 +0100, Ed Reingold wrote: >> The only advantage of the simple display is that you can edit the >> diary file directly. >> >> I think this is a fundamental advantage. I wish we could implement >> the other features of fancy diary display while preserving this. >> > > It's no advantage at all; it is a fundamental DISadvantage to have the default > be the simple file with lines concealed. Of course that is the file you need > to edit, but what you want to look at in the processed file, ie the fancy > form. It's like insisting that you only look at the .tex file, never the .pdf > output. The present setup is (and always was) a dumb decision (not mine!). Maybe even consider making diary-simple-display obsolete. -- Leo's Emacs uptime: 1 day, 7 hours, 39 minutes, 29 seconds