From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: M-Tab on w32 (and other window systems?) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:49:12 +0100 Message-ID: References: <014201c512f1$05630180$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108429938 536 80.91.229.2 (15 Feb 2005 01:12:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 02:12:18 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0rFp-0007nw-Jt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:11:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0rVT-0005bS-FZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:28:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0rTu-00057r-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:26:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0rTq-000562-1x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:26:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0rTo-0004yY-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:26:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0qts-0003f7-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:49:12 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0qpp-0006Dx-Mj; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:45:02 -0500 Original-To: "Lennart Borgman" In-Reply-To: <014201c512f1$05630180$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:56:12 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33443 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33443 "Lennart Borgman" writes: > The citation below is from nxml-mode.info. Is this something that should be > adopted generally in Emacs? > > "The traditional GNU Emacs key combination for completion in a buffer > is `M-'. However, many window systems and window managers use this > key combination themselves (typically for switching between windows) > and do not pass it to applications. It's hard to find key combinations > in GNU Emacs that are both easy to type and not taken by something > else. `C-' (i.e. pressing the Enter or Return key, while the > Ctrl key is held down) is available. It won't be available on a > traditional terminal (because it is indistinguishable from Return), but > it will work with a window system. Therefore we adopt the following > solution by default: use `C-' when there's a window system and > `M-' when there's not. In the following, I will assume that a > window system is being used and will therefore refer to `C-'." C-RET is taken by modes already. I find that Esc and TAB keys are close enough to make typing Esc TAB a simple enough operation. Even though I am at the moment using Blackbox which does not intercept M-TAB at all. But I am used to Esc TAB, and don't find it hard to reach. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum