From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key binding M-g should really be goto-line Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 02:19:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1109720969.656668.1814.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109726221 8732 80.91.229.2 (2 Mar 2005 01:17:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 01:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 02:17:00 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6ITA-0003fT-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 02:16:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6Ilp-0001UX-Qk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:35:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D6IlN-0001Rl-59 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:34:57 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D6IlL-0001QN-1h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:34:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D6IlK-0001QD-U8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:34:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D6IWo-00050B-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:19:54 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D6IWn-000072-Iv; Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:19:53 -0500 Original-To: Ralf Angeli In-Reply-To: (Ralf Angeli's message of "Wed, 02 Mar 2005 02:00:57 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34027 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34027 Ralf Angeli writes: > * Alfred M. Szmidt (2005-03-02) writes: > >> FWIW, I fail to see why people want goto-line, I never used it, >> facemenu-keymap atleast has a potential use already, and in the >> future; whereas goto-line is just a crutch. And I fail to see the >> fetish people have over keybidnings, specially M-g. > > One thing I did very soon after starting to use Emacs was to bind > `M-g' to `goto-line'. I am using it often when dealing with patches > generated with `diff' and wanting to look at the original source > before applying a patch. Pressing C-c C-c in diff-mode should be easier. Whenever this topic has come up, one of the arguments was "whatever you are trying to do, Emacs should have a better way to do it than M-g". And in many cases this might be correct. But I don't think that the best way to teach about refined features is to not provide simpler features. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum