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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: Eric Hanchrow <offby1@blarg.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fix for slow process output processing (please test).
Date: 05 Jan 2004 16:57:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x5y8smmlr9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3oetjtjxi.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>

storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:

> Eric Hanchrow <offby1@blarg.net> writes:
> > 
> > I've noticed that shell-mode on very recent (i.e., since after New
> > Year's) versions of CVS Emacs on Windows is quite slow, and the
> > CPU usage is high, for a second or two after I hit RET
> > (comint-send-input).  I haven't yet investigated, but if this
> > sounds like it might be related to your patch (which I think, but
> > cannot right now confirm, is present on the Emacs in question),
> > let me know if I can give you any more information.
> 
> Does the problem go away if you do
> 
>         M-: (setq process-adaptive-read-buffering nil) RET
> 
> before starting shell-mode ?
> 
> I suppose that process-adaptive-read-buffering isn't really needed
> on Windows,

Since Windows is slow, anyway?

> so we could just turn it off in lisp/term/w32-win.el.

I suppose the problem could be that the Windows equivalent of
"select" that Emacs uses does a busy wait without yielding the CPU.
Perhaps this depends on the size of the time slice.

So perhaps it would be nice for experiments to be able to set
process-adaptive-read-buffering to something more complicated, like a
property list setting some parameters, at least for the purpose of
debugging.  It might help getting relevant feedback from those using
Windows.  Maybe.

On another note, I just recalled that Linux has recently gained
something they called an "anticipative I/O scheduler" which means that
write requests will not cause the process to be scheduled away
immediately, but rather it gets a chance to produce more output (I
don't think that this related to the pipes here, though, but mostly
for disk writes).  I don't know whether or not one should adapt the
buzz phrase "adaptive buffering" to rather use "anticipative" as the
latter is already "established" in a way.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-05 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-16  1:21 Fix for slow process output processing (please test) Kim F. Storm
2003-12-16  2:14 ` David Kastrup
2003-12-16  3:34 ` David Kastrup
2003-12-16 10:23   ` Kim F. Storm
2003-12-16 11:51     ` David Kastrup
2003-12-16 13:24       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-01-03 15:12         ` David Kastrup
2004-01-04 23:00           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-01-03 22:07 ` Eric Hanchrow
2004-01-04 22:42   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-01-05 15:57     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2004-01-05 19:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-01-05 19:39         ` David Kastrup
2004-01-05 19:52         ` Jason Rumney
2004-01-05 23:28           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-01-05 23:16             ` Jason Rumney
2004-01-05 23:44               ` David Kastrup
2004-01-06  0:23                 ` Jason Rumney
2004-01-07  0:40               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-01-05 23:35       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-01-05 22:50         ` David Kastrup
2004-01-06  0:09           ` Kim F. Storm

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