From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mention darwin as a possible value for system-type? Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:25:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <002101c50e75$33ee87c0$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <01c50ed6$Blat.v2.4$5fc89be0@zahav.net.il> <16906.29014.782630.361708@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <01c50f2c$Blat.v2.4$1e6a7c80@zahav.net.il> <01c5104c$Blat.v2.4$449065c0@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108140617 14255 80.91.229.6 (11 Feb 2005 16:50:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 11 17:50:10 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Czdzd-0007nc-00 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:50:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CzeEb-0004tF-Jf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:05:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cze8o-0002y4-VI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:59:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cze8h-0002vN-4p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:59:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cze8g-0002nx-Uf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:59:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CzdcF-00039E-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:25:59 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CzdYY-0004Me-Cx; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:22:10 -0500 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <01c5104c$Blat.v2.4$449065c0@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:12:37 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33261 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33261 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> Cc: Nick Roberts , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: David Kastrup >> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:10:54 +0100 >> >> > If `darwin' is the value on some supported system, its omission >> > cannot be deliberate, I think. >> >> Secondguessing will get us nowhere: by that we just cement possible >> oversights permanently. Policy by accident, "somebody might have >> thought something when doing that", is a recipe for disaster in the >> long run. >> >> AFAICS, Darwin is free software (while MacOSX isn't). So even if >> we try to be semi-"politically correct" by deliberately making >> using unfree software more complicated with buggy documentation, >> more likely window-system rather than system-type should be >> affected. > > Once again David Kastrup pounces on someone guided by nothing else > but his own misunderstandings: all I meant to say was that the > omission of `darwin' is a bug that should be fixed. I apparently mixed up "deliberate" with some synonymon of "arbitrary". Sorry for the confusion. It might have helped if your reply had included a suggested course of action. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum