From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never). Date: 16 Apr 2004 20:49:44 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87eks0654s.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <87n06bp4ng.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <8765cwkejr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200404071157.UAA25094@etlken.m17n.org> <200404071312.WAA25268@etlken.m17n.org> <87zn9nqras.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87hdvux5uz.fsf@orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082141588 30702 80.91.224.253 (16 Apr 2004 18:53:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 18:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 16 20:53:03 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BEYSV-0005TL-00 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:53:03 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BEYSU-0001mY-00 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:53:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BEYPz-00040E-H8 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BEYPt-0003ys-Nc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:50:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BEYPM-0003lW-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:50:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BEYPL-0003k6-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BEYOb-0002yl-JT; Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:49:02 -0400 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21791 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21791 Richard Stallman writes: > I like to have a menu-bar on a window system, but don't like it on > a terminal. Maybe a display-local variable could do that. > > It would be just as easy to do this job with frame-local variables > (i.e. frame parameters), and they already exist. I don't see how. After all, we are not talking about the _possibility_ of having a menu-bar or not (that's trivial), but about the default for creation of new frames. And as far as I can tell, you can't set different defaults for different displays. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum