From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: python-mode (python.el): python-backspace Date: 18 May 2004 16:09:35 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084895980 31175 80.91.224.253 (18 May 2004 15:59:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Chen , fx@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue May 18 17:59:30 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BQ706-0008RX-00 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 17:59:30 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BQ705-0006Bw-00 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 17:59:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQ6m6-0007AP-3a for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 18 May 2004 11:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BQ6jr-0006gD-Mm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2004 11:42:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BQ6YT-0004RF-3E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2004 11:31:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQ5Hs-0006n6-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2004 10:09:44 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQ5Hl-0002wc-Rd; Tue, 18 May 2004 10:09:38 -0400 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23632 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23632 Stefan Monnier writes: > > It is not a good thing for a major mode to redefine DEL or Backspace > > so drastically, because that breaks a general convention that is supposed > > to be universal in Emacs. It is ok to have an option to do this, > > but it should not be the default. > > I'd suggest that if we start fiddling with such code, we introduce a generic > way to electrify backspace. Otherwise people who want it need to enable it > separately (and differently) for each and every major mode they use. While we are electrifying, I want to point out the complete lack of an "LF" key on almost all of today's keyboards. I think that in most modes, people would prefer to have RET bound to newline-and-indent instead of newline. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum