From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:38:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112226011 25466 80.91.229.2 (30 Mar 2005 23:40:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 31 01:40:08 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGmmv-0004Yf-8Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 01:39:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGn3V-00016P-Cj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGn2T-0000SZ-H7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:55:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGn2Q-0000Pz-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:55:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGn2N-0000P0-Ut for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:55:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DGmlT-00049P-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:38:23 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lola.goethe.zz) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DGmlD-0006Bn-UG; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:38:08 -0500 Original-To: ttn@glug.org In-Reply-To: (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:47:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35392 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35392 Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:43:07 -0500 > > We could make that a general rule: every tutorial translation must > start with a sentence that translates "Emacs tutorial". > > sorry, i misunderstood this simple sentence and implemented the > wrong thing (gotta slow down sometimes and be more careful). please > find below a revised patch that uses the first sentence of the file > as the text for the splash screen. unfortunately, i prematurely > committed changes to the actual TUTORIAL files due to concerns that > translators might not see the proposed changes. i think it's best > that i stick w/ the code and let Marcelo and others handle updates > to those files. :-( HEAD is, after all, not promised to be "release-ready" branch: our priorities of whether to check something in or not should mostly focus on whether this achieves the goal of getting our development done efficiently. Since it is not overly efficient if people are kept from working by bugs in areas where they are not proficient, one should be careful about checking stuff in that will break functionality. In the case of the tutorials, however, I should think by far the most efficient way to get this done is by just checking in a first version and let the respective speakers of the language then simply do the corrections in HEAD. If some intermediate tutorial version happens to use bad words and grammar, this does not impede development at all. Certainly takes less developer time than hand-applying and corroborating patches. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum