From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-z (Re: Two GTK related feature requests) Date: 29 Oct 2003 16:29:41 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87oew8so3g.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> <20031029151518.C920@winpc174> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067441815 19829 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 15:36:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Eichwalder , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 16:36:51 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEsNP-0004Nl-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:36:51 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEsNO-00012j-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:36:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEsI4-0005Ko-Gn for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:31:20 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEsHP-0005Ge-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:30:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEsGj-00056K-DT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:30:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.80.160.86] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AEsGi-00055S-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:29:56 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9TFTjl5010400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:29:47 +0100 Original-Received: (from dak@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h9TFTfZS010396; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:29:41 +0100 Original-To: Stephan Stahl In-Reply-To: <20031029151518.C920@winpc174> Original-Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17552 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17552 Stephan Stahl writes: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:01:50PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > Reminds me... I'd like to see C-z de-assigned from > > > iconify-or-deiconify-frame. > > > > Agreed. It's very rarely useful, but often annoying. Also it's > > completely non-standard, except that it tries to simulate the tty > > behavior, which seems wrongheaded because iconify-frame rarely > > brings you back to the "parent shell" or anything vaguely related. > > If C-z should continue to emulate the behavior of an tty when used > in a windowing system then maybe it should call (shell)? That could > at least be thought of as "parent shell".. I'd call that very much obtuse. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum