From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Idea for compilation mode Date: 11 Jun 2003 10:51:08 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030606143233.7242.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> <20030609190948.8E09.LEKTU@terra.es> <1055320581.3ee6ea05ab4b9@webmail.isogmbh.de> Reply-To: dak@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055334670 6086 80.91.224.249 (11 Jun 2003 12:31:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 11 14:31:03 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q4k3-0001V7-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:30:15 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q552-0001Cs-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:51:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4kW-0001ae-1N for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4jx-0001Wr-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4io-0000d5-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q4ij-0000aq-Ma; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:28:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fwd10.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 19Q4ii-0000Qh-05; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:28:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (Z4BkpiZ1weAISsOxysxc-GKRTe2VSoLrd6UljFIJHfSI+P3ewbu96B@[62.226.11.202]) by fwd10.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 19Q4iQ-26OkvR0; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:28:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5B8pRNM031721; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:52:08 +0200 Original-Received: (from dak@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5B8p8E8031717; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:51:08 +0200 Original-To: Stephan Stahl In-Reply-To: <1055320581.3ee6ea05ab4b9@webmail.isogmbh.de> Original-Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-Seen: false X-ID: Z4BkpiZ1weAISsOxysxc-GKRTe2VSoLrd6UljFIJHfSI+P3ewbu96B@t-dialin.net Original-cc: Juanma Barranquero Original-cc: "rms@gnu.org" Original-cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15029 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15029 Stephan Stahl writes: > Juanma Barranquero wrote: > > > On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:09:01 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > > > I'm not interested in making any major changes in Emacs key bindings > > > for the sake of non-US keyboards. > > > > I was not proposing major changes, of course. Perhaps alternate > > keybindings for the more difficult ones to type today (M-C-\, things > > with ` and stuff like that). > > A list of difficult keys and proposals for alternatives would be nice. > I think > ~ ` @ ^ | > are some of those troublemakers. Any ideas for new bindings? At least in German, the dead ones are the more problematic ones, ~ `, maybe ^. ~ and ` are rarely used in programming, too. | is not that bad and in the usual keybindings it has mnemonic value for pipes. At least M-C-` and M-C-~ are not currently bound... -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum