From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: remove s/sco[45].h etc. Date: 21 Nov 2003 00:36:39 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069372001 3150 80.91.224.253 (20 Nov 2003 23:46:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 23:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 21 00:46:35 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMyVP-0001j9-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:46:35 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMyVO-0003dL-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:46:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMzOh-00042f-Q2 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:43:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMzK1-0002UG-9a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:38:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMzJT-0002Gm-99 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:38:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.226.11.180] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AMzJR-0002Ey-BP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:38:17 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAKNagdv019216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:36:43 +0100 Original-Received: (from dak@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hAKNad7c019212; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:36:39 +0100 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17991 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17991 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Considering recent events, I don't see any point in actively > supporting any of the SCO "owned" systems. > > I suggest that we remove the corresponding support files, that is > s/sco4.h and s/sco5.h, as well as other s/*.h files for other sysV / > usg derivates created or owned by SCO. > > WDYT? It is one thing to actively support a system. It is another to actively sabotage any effort of people depending on that kind of system to use free software. It is my recommendation to free software maintainers not to spend any effort of their own on supporting proprietary systems such as SCO Unix variants. But if people go to all the effort of providing all the work for supporting a platform, I don't see the point in denying them access to free software just because they are using (and perhaps compelledly so) some unrelated proprietary software. Please note also that Microsoft Windows is supported as an operating platform for Emacs, and Microsoft certainly has been spreading as much false information about free software as the current SCO-initiated misinformation campaign is. The way to spread freedom is not by denying it to people having to live under restraints already. Emacs use is contagious, anyway: Emacs users on proprietary systems basically fall into the two categories a) works with free software whenever he can, is forced to work on proprietary platforms at some time. b) is getting infected with Emacs, will eventually migrate to a platform where Emacs runs best, namely some GNU system. People of category a) are often inspiring people to try out b). So in short: I don't think it reasonable to block one of the most compelling migration paths to free systems, for the sake of some petty revenge thinking. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum